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Apache
38,277 posts
154 months
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turbobloke said: Apache said: Cadmium telluride and cadmium sulphide are only used on thin film panels which are not yet commercially viable. Even if they were, the amounts of cadmium left behind would be minute Even so contamination studies and risk assessments are already taking the Cd presence into account. There's no escaping the Elf in Safety. They want to shove that Elf up a power station chimney then, he'd find plenty of cadmium up there 
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turbobloke
55,678 posts
130 months
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Germany's €300 Billion Green Energy Disaster
Photovoltaics are threatening to become the costliest mistake in the history of German energy policy. A new study by Georg Erdmann, professor of energy systems at Berlin's Technical University, reveals that subsidies for renewable energy, including an expansion of the power grid, will saddle energy consumers with costs well over €300 billion ($377 billion). The study is all the more interesting because Erdmann himself is a member of a panel of experts the German government appointed a few months ago to monitor Germany's transition to renewable energy.
Alexander Neubacher and Catalina Schröder, Spiegel Online, 05 July 2012
Global Warming Solutions Dissolve Money and Jobs
A new economic impact study on California's Global Warming Solutions Act finds that the average California family will end up paying an additional $2,500 annually by 2020. In addition, the state is expected to lose an additional 262,000 jobs, 5.6 percent of the gross state product, and a whopping $7.4 billion through decreased annual state and local tax revenues as a result.
IVN News, 04 July 2012
Contrary EUSSR
Europe is burning coal at the fastest pace since 2006, as surging imports from U.S. helped cut prices 26 percent in a year. Demand for coal grew 3.3 percent last year in Europe while sales of less- polluting natural gas fell 2.1 percent. Gas-fired plants need about half the carbon permits of coal burners. Even so, the 17 percent drop in permit prices to about 8 euros a ton has reduced their competitive advantage. Coal will continue to remain on the money in Europe because it’s more competitive to burn than gas. More and more of the coal to Europe will come from the U.S. where just the opposite is happening.
Katakey, Singh and Morison, Bloomberg, 04 July 2012
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jshell
5,050 posts
75 months
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Apache said: giz a job O/T. Got your mail, I'll reply fully during the week when back at work!
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dickymint
11,430 posts
128 months
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jshell said: Apache said: giz a job O/T. Got your mail, I'll reply fully during the week when back at work! So to address the balance Apache applies for a job with Big Oil 
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Apache
38,277 posts
154 months
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dickymint said: jshell said: Apache said: giz a job O/T. Got your mail, I'll reply fully during the week when back at work! So to address the balance Apache applies for a job with Big Oil Hey, I'm nothing if not fair
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Jasandjules
45,852 posts
99 months
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Pointman said: That's the problem with forcing these green technologies down our throats. They simply gloss over or don't mention at all any downside. CFLs are actually a real eco-disaster in the making, never mind the health hazzards. They don't even put Mercury health warnings on the packaging. http://thepointman.wordpress.com/2012/04/21/theres...Pointman The damage to the environment in getting the raw materials disgusts me. Why the moronic eco-loonsn ignore this is beyond me.
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Mojocvh
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132 months
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Apache said: turbobloke said: Apache said: Cadmium telluride and cadmium sulphide are only used on thin film panels which are not yet commercially viable. Even if they were, the amounts of cadmium left behind would be minute Even so contamination studies and risk assessments are already taking the Cd presence into account. There's no escaping the Elf in Safety. They want to shove that Elf up a power station chimney then, he'd find plenty of cadmium up there O/T at a certain, soon to be closed, east coast, Scottish air defence base, there was a big panic when one of the isolators showed a VAST increase in cadmium from the airfield. Turns out it was coming from the washplant and was being flushed from the aircraft's components and structure when they were being washed prior to entering scheduled maintenance at the station. Unfortunately the records of the washplant weren't the best, and due to the large turnover of civilian staff corporate knowledge was "lacking". Like RIP turnover.........
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turbobloke
55,678 posts
130 months
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Tellurium contamination is nothing to be sniffed at.
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steveatesh
1,007 posts
34 months
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Jasandjules said: The damage to the environment in getting the raw materials disgusts me. Why the moronic eco-loonsn ignore this is beyond me. Because it suits their belief system to do so! Can't have totalitarianism ideology being held back by facts can we?
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Happy82
5,231 posts
39 months
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Jasandjules said: The damage to the environment in getting the raw materials disgusts me. Why the moronic eco-loonsn ignore this is beyond me. Because this is about forcing political change and control, it is nothing to do with protecting the environment.
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mybrainhurts
71,767 posts
125 months
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LongQ
Original Poster
8,961 posts
103 months
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Not exactly political but close enough I guess ... http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=8...28th June 1958. "Wettest June for 55 years" See the front page of the Daily Mirror for more. 54 years later we seem to be having a repeat of the cycle. Now, where's the political connection ?
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deeps
4,216 posts
111 months
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The BBC news channel has turned into a full on "extreme weather" channel. Reports from many countries today showing the wettest, the hottest, the driest etc etc in 100 years, "record" this and "record" that, yet no direct implication to MMGW is ever mentioned, but of course it's conspicuos by it's total absence. This policy has been employed since climategate, subliminal propaganda being an effective tool following on from years of direct propaganda which has sewn the seeds.
So the continual barrage of MMGW propaganda carries on, but without mentioning the dirty words. Surely most people can see right through this barrage of so called extreme weather reporting? The "sting" will be thrown into the mix at a later date in a subtle manner, with perhaps another sickly report on the CO2 experiment in Australia, or some other such nonsense.
I must be a masochist to continue to watch the tripe, but it's either that or a barrage of advertising from Sky news.
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deeps
4,216 posts
111 months
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mybrainhurts said: Some good comments on that link MBH... Foxgoose said: Met Office March three month outlook :- Period: April – June 2012 Issue date: 23.03.12 SUMMARY – PRECIPITATION: The forecast for average UK rainfall slightly favours drier than average conditions for April-May-June as a whole, and also slightly favours April being the driest of the 3 months. With this forecast, the water resources situation in southern, eastern and central England is likely to deteriorate further during the April-May-June period. The probability that UK precipitation for April-May-June will fall into the driest of our five categories is 20-25% whilst the probability that it will fall into the wettest of our five categories is 10-15% (the 197-2000 climatological probability for each of these categories is 20%). CONTEXT: As a legacy of dry weather over many months water resources in much of southern, eastern and central England remain at very low levels. Winter rainfall in these areas has typically been about 70% of average, whilst observations and current forecasts suggest that the final totals for March will be below average here too. The Environment Agency advises that, given the current state of soils and groundwater levels in these areas, drought impacts in the coming months are virtually inevitable. Met Office collaborator UEA CRU's Clare Goodess on BBC this week:- "Flooding across the UK set to stay for years to come" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18744189These people have given up their last vestiges of scientific credibility now and are simply (with the enthusiastic collaboration of the BBC) - trying to con the most credulous sector of the populace in much the same manner as those Romanian card sharps on Westminster Bridge. Maybe Richard Betts will drop by in a minute, to give us one of his cheerfully earnest and side-splitting explanations of how all of this fits together in the magical and mysterious world of climatology. I could do with a laugh & it's too wet to go for a walk.
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deeps
4,216 posts
111 months
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Thinkingscientist said: Whilst I wholeheartedly agree with John Redwood's letter I must say that I have noticed in the last 6 months to a year a complete absence of any mention of climate change in the BBC news bulletins when discussing weather. Even with the extreme rainfall and flooding recently not a word has been uttered linking it to climate change, at least to my ears And I am hypersensitive to such comments from the BBC (just ask my wife).
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LongQ
Original Poster
8,961 posts
103 months
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This seems to be political in effect even if based on business decisions. China stockpiling rare earth minerals and limiting new productionGiven the grief they get over environmental issues related to rare earth mineral extraction I'm not surprised they want to be seen to be cutting back. Scarcity can't harm the price either from their perspective and they already account for 90% of worldwide production. “These materials are key inputs in a multitude of US manufacturing sectors and American-made products, including hybrid car batteries, wind turbines, energy-efficient lighting, steel, advanced electronics, automobiles, petroleum and chemicals,” said US trade representative Ron Kirk.This could get interesting.
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The Don of Croy
1,114 posts
29 months
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Following the BBC weather forecast over the weekend, with the (shock! horror!) RED weather warning - actual maybe chance of DEATH from flooding - did the 'extreme weather event' pass without loss of life?
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nelly1
4,932 posts
101 months
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The Don of Croy said: Following the BBC weather forecast over the weekend, with the (shock! horror!) RED weather warning - actual maybe chance of DEATH from flooding - did the 'extreme weather event' pass without loss of life? Nope...
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deeps
4,216 posts
111 months
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You could say there will be loss of life no matter what the type of weather.
The best we can hope for is some climate warming as unlikely as that is, as climate cooling would be harder to deal with on every level from food production and distribution, building, transport, health, electricty production etc. There's probably some plus points for global cooling but I can't think of any!
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turbobloke
55,678 posts
130 months
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deeps said: You could say there will be loss of life no matter what the type of weather.
The best we can hope for is some climate warming as unlikely as that is, as climate cooling would be harder to deal with on every level from food production and distribution, building, transport, health, electricty production etc. There's probably some plus points for global cooling but I can't think of any! There may be another period where the equivalent of Stradivarius stringed instruments appear. These had the benefit of wood which experienced the LIA and this has been claimed as a factor in the high quality of the eponymous violins and cellos. Not much but it's something.
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