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Gene Vincent
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27 months
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Blib said: That's "Climate Chaos", that is.  Was that us as well? 
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S7Paul
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103 months
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Anyone else hear the boss of British Gas on R4 this morning? He was saying that of the typical increase on annual bills of £80, £25 was due to the cost of supporting Gov't green energy nonsense.
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Blib
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66 months
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A Lib Dem junior energy minister on News 24 this morning defended the rise in bills by saying that this will wean us from expensive and potentially unstable energy supplies from abroad. This cried out for the BBC anchor to ask whether that meant the government was committed to exploit our abundant shale gas reserves? Of course, the question was not asked. 
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Guam
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137 months
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Someone just threw Paul Krugman <well known mate of Climate Skeptics> into the debate on the US election thread. Coffee and keyboard moment for sure for me 
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Lost_BMW
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45 months
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S7Paul said: Anyone else hear the boss of British Gas on R4 this morning? He was saying that of the typical increase on annual bills of £80, £25 was due to the cost of supporting Gov't green energy nonsense. And that is just £25 of the latest rise of course.
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LongQ
Original Poster
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102 months
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Gene Vincent said: That's interesting. Drove through that area about 11 months ago on a delightful and quite warm spring morning. We had also driven through the Snowy Mountain ski resorts area further south the week before - the season was clearly over. Last winter/spring in Aus, especially the Sydney area and, of course, the places further north that were severely flooded a while earlier, had been cool and cloudy and wet for almost the entire season. This year I was told a week ago that they had had 60 days straight with sunshine and the temps were in the low 30s C. Most interesting weather patterns. I wonder what the full summer will bring?
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Jasandjules
45,446 posts
98 months
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S7Paul said: Anyone else hear the boss of British Gas on R4 this morning? He was saying that of the typical increase on annual bills of £80, £25 was due to the cost of supporting Gov't green energy nonsense. Good. Let's hope the public actually get told this stuff more so they work out the reason they will be cold this winter is due to Global Warming.....
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turbobloke
55,494 posts
129 months
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Britain’s New Power Game: UK Government To Dodge Climate Change Targets
The Times can reveal that the Government wants to sidestep climate change targets in an effort to stem soaring electricity prices. In an exclusive interview, Ed Davey, the Energy Secretary, said that he wanted to introduce a loophole which would allow new fossil fuel plants to be built. Mr Davey argues that consumers could be spared the cost of subsidising new wind farms and nuclear reactors by building new gas plants, which would be offset by other parts of the economy, such as transport, going green more cheaply. But the idea will anger environmental groups, who warn that it will undermine green targets and deter investment in low carbon energy generation.
Tim Webb, The Times, 12 October 2012
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Guam
15,438 posts
137 months
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turbobloke said: Britain’s New Power Game: UK Government To Dodge Climate Change Targets
The Times can reveal that the Government wants to sidestep climate change targets in an effort to stem soaring electricity prices. In an exclusive interview, Ed Davey, the Energy Secretary, said that he wanted to introduce a loophole which would allow new fossil fuel plants to be built. Mr Davey argues that consumers could be spared the cost of subsidising new wind farms and nuclear reactors by building new gas plants, which would be offset by other parts of the economy, such as transport, going green more cheaply. But the idea will anger environmental groups, who warn that it will undermine green targets and deter investment in low carbon energy generation.
Tim Webb, The Times, 12 October 2012  Jim Hacker would be proud, we cant admit its all b  ks and just bin it, it would make successive governments appear to be wrong, no what we should do is fudge it and just ignore the issue and hope no one notices!
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dickymint
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127 months
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a_bread
645 posts
54 months
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Blib said: A Lib Dem junior energy minister on News 24 this morning defended the rise in bills by saying that this will wean us from expensive and potentially unstable energy supplies from abroad. Damn these Lib Dems. It's like saying that roads in terrible condition are a brilliant way of weaning us off sports cars and not repairing them is therefore a very environmentally-friendly policy.
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Lost_BMW
10,648 posts
45 months
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a_bread said: Blib said: A Lib Dem junior energy minister on News 24 this morning defended the rise in bills by saying that this will wean us from expensive and potentially unstable energy supplies from abroad. Damn these Lib Dems. It's like saying that roads in terrible condition are a brilliant way of weaning us off sports cars and not repairing them is therefore a very environmentally-friendly policy. That is one of their other policies isn't it. Along with pushing the wealthy abroad and bankrupting industry. Utterly despise the party and all who sail in it. Roll on the electoral iceberg heading their way.
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turbobloke
55,494 posts
129 months
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Lost_BMW said: a_bread said: Blib said: A Lib Dem junior energy minister on News 24 this morning defended the rise in bills by saying that this will wean us from expensive and potentially unstable energy supplies from abroad. Damn these Lib Dems. It's like saying that roads in terrible condition are a brilliant way of weaning us off sports cars and not repairing them is therefore a very environmentally-friendly policy. That is one of their other policies isn't it. Along with pushing the wealthy abroad and bankrupting industry. Utterly despise the party and all who sail in it. Roll on the electoral iceberg heading their way. Parking your own car outside your own home should cost a fortune according to the libtards. Ridiculous parody of a political Party.
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nelly1
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100 months
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Gene Vincent said: Fear not! With a bit of Media Spinning©, this story becomes a 'Grim Prediction'...
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Blib
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66 months
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nelly1 said: Gene Vincent said: Fear not! With a bit of Media Spinning©, this story becomes a 'Grim Prediction'... article said: Ironically, this season has been one of the best for snow in years, but such good conditions are becoming the exception. The morons are so brainwashed and in denial that they ignore the evidence staring them in the face. God, how dumb can one get?
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Jasandjules
45,446 posts
98 months
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Blib said: The morons are so brainwashed and in denial that they ignore the evidence staring them in the face. God, how dumb can one get? I suggest attempting to discuss the issue with a zealot. It soon becomes clear just how dumb a person can get.........
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Guam
15,438 posts
137 months
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Jasandjules said: I suggest attempting to discuss the issue with a zealot. It soon becomes clear just how dumb a person can get......... As John Wayne put it, "life is tough, and tougher when you are stupid"
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Spiritual_Beggar
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63 months
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Happy82
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38 months
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Jasandjules said: I suggest attempting to discuss the issue with a zealot. It soon becomes clear just how dumb a person can get......... And aggressive! It's amazing how angry a "save the planet peace for all" individual can get when you question their religion with facts.
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hidetheelephants
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62 months
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Spiritual_Beggar said: I'm conflicted; it's in the Daily Soovy so I'm predisposed to disbelieve it.  Reading things like this; the picture of some powerstation cooling towers captioned thus; Daily Soovy said: "Damage: Global warming has been caused in part by the CO2 emitted by fossil fuels. This image shows smoke billowing out of a power station" makes me want to be cruel to dumb animals, preferably ones who work for tabloid newpapers. 
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