Climate change - the POLITICAL debate.
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chris watton said:
Guam said:
http://johnosullivan.wordpress.com/2012/10/28/mich...
More on mann with some scathing comments
This bloke is an utter joke now
Excellent stuff!More on mann with some scathing comments
This bloke is an utter joke now
I especially like this post below the article:
cbltoo said:
Here is Nobel’s response to the query:
1) Michael Mann has never been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
2) He did not receive any personal certificate. He has taken the diploma awarded in 2007 to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (and to Al Gore) and made his own text underneath this authentic-looking diploma.
3) The text underneath the diploma is entirely his own. We issued only the diploma to the IPCC as such. No individuals on the IPCC side received anything in 2007.
“Unfortunately we often experience that members of organizations that have indeed been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize issue various forms of personal diplomas to indicate that they personally have received the Nobel Peace Prize. They have not.”
How up his own arse is Mann to do such a thing!1) Michael Mann has never been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
2) He did not receive any personal certificate. He has taken the diploma awarded in 2007 to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (and to Al Gore) and made his own text underneath this authentic-looking diploma.
3) The text underneath the diploma is entirely his own. We issued only the diploma to the IPCC as such. No individuals on the IPCC side received anything in 2007.
“Unfortunately we often experience that members of organizations that have indeed been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize issue various forms of personal diplomas to indicate that they personally have received the Nobel Peace Prize. They have not.”
br d said:
Interesting. If the experts are so sure I would have thought they would be proud to stand up and be counted.
chris watton said:
cbltoo said:
Here is Nobel’s response to the query:
1) Michael Mann has never been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
2) He did not receive any personal certificate. He has taken the diploma awarded in 2007 to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (and to Al Gore) and made his own text underneath this authentic-looking diploma.
3) The text underneath the diploma is entirely his own. We issued only the diploma to the IPCC as such. No individuals on the IPCC side received anything in 2007.
“Unfortunately we often experience that members of organizations that have indeed been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize issue various forms of personal diplomas to indicate that they personally have received the Nobel Peace Prize. They have not.”
How up his own arse is Mann to do such a thing!1) Michael Mann has never been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
2) He did not receive any personal certificate. He has taken the diploma awarded in 2007 to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (and to Al Gore) and made his own text underneath this authentic-looking diploma.
3) The text underneath the diploma is entirely his own. We issued only the diploma to the IPCC as such. No individuals on the IPCC side received anything in 2007.
“Unfortunately we often experience that members of organizations that have indeed been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize issue various forms of personal diplomas to indicate that they personally have received the Nobel Peace Prize. They have not.”
kerplunk said:
I'd say the wording is poor on his legal submission and that's a valid complaint (doubt it's perjury though!). However the certificate thing is a just fluff - the IPCC issued the certificates with the text on them to IPCC participants.
It may be more serious than that - makes him out to be a liar (if he did actually portray himself as a Nobel prize winner).That's not good.
It may count against him!
edited for speelings!
Jasandjules said:
turbobloke said:
"Green campaigners comdemn Lilley's appointment"
And odd that they made no complaints when people such as Tim Yeo have similar positions... Seems only those who share their views can have a say.. I guess they know they are lying then eh!?rovermorris999 said:
br d said:
Interesting. If the experts are so sure I would have thought they would be proud to stand up and be counted.On a related note; did anyone watch this rubbish? I did(well, 5 minutes before switching channel in disgust) and I've had funnier ambulance rides. Who commissions this s
te?hidetheelephants said:
On a related note; did anyone watch this rubbish? I did(well, 5 minutes before switching channel in disgust) and I've had funnier ambulance rides. Who commissions this ste?
A britian with no coast linete?
Yes i can see the highlands being completely flooded
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king londoncentric bksAli G said:
It may be more serious than that - makes him out to be a liar (if he did actually portray himself as a Nobel prize winner).
That's not good.
It may count against him!
edited for speelings!
hmmm may be, but I doubt it.That's not good.
It may count against him!
edited for speelings!
By the way in case anybody is unaware, John O'Sullivan isn't exactly an uninvolved party in this stuff. He's on (or was) Tim Ball's team in the Mann v Ball libel case. Also, some might remember the 'Sky Dragon Slayer' threads on Judith Curry's blog? - well they aren't there now cos John O'Sullivan issued a libel challenge earlier this year due to allegations made in the comments and JC was forced to remove them. All good material for the popcorn munchers!
http://rabett.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/poof-goes-mag...
Edited by kerplunk on Tuesday 30th October 11:21
kerplunk said:
hmmm may be, but I doubt it.
By the way in case anybody is unaware, John O'Sullivan isn't exactly an uninvolved party in this stuff. He's on (or was) Tim Ball's team in the Mann v Ball libel case. Also, some might remember the 'Sky Dragon Slayer' threads on Judith Curry's blog? - well they aren't there now cos John O'Sullivan issued a libel challenge earlier this year due to allegations made in the comments and JC was forced to remove them. All good material for the popcorn munchers!
http://rabett.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/poof-goes-mag...
Out of interest KP do you follow "rabbet's" blog (it might explain much) or is it just a convient one to link to for the example cited?By the way in case anybody is unaware, John O'Sullivan isn't exactly an uninvolved party in this stuff. He's on (or was) Tim Ball's team in the Mann v Ball libel case. Also, some might remember the 'Sky Dragon Slayer' threads on Judith Curry's blog? - well they aren't there now cos John O'Sullivan issued a libel challenge earlier this year due to allegations made in the comments and JC was forced to remove them. All good material for the popcorn munchers!
http://rabett.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/poof-goes-mag...
Edited by kerplunk on Tuesday 30th October 11:21
Serious question.
LongQ said:
Out of interest KP do you follow "rabbet's" blog (it might explain much) or is it just a convient one to link to for the example cited?
Serious question.
yes it's one of many I read, but on this occassion I did a search for 'askolnick' (one of the protagonists on the aforementioned dragon slayer threads)Serious question.
I'm curious what it supposedly explains?
mybrainhurts said:
Prof Jones still wriggling like a ferret in a bag to conceal ONE email.
Unbelievable stuff.
Part 1
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2012/10/25/...
Interesting story mentioned in the comments section; the Environment Agency pisses away £0.5m in FOI farce; and it seems they are serial offenders, both for FOI sandbagging and perversely obstructing green energy schemes!?!Unbelievable stuff.
Part 1
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2012/10/25/...
The Germans won't build them, and the Japs won't build them in their own back yard. After what seemed to be an outbreak of common sense, seems like things are not going quite going according to plan with the recent Hitachi deal.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20137573
After being a leader in the world in nuclear power etc. etc. you would think we could just get on and do it better ourselves.
Guess we'll just need (get somebody else) to build more windmills.
At least the greenies will be happy (if cold..)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20137573
After being a leader in the world in nuclear power etc. etc. you would think we could just get on and do it better ourselves.
Guess we'll just need (get somebody else) to build more windmills.
At least the greenies will be happy (if cold..)
LongQ said:
dickymint said:
Watching "Operation Iceberg" now. Will probably have to buy a new TV tomorrow!
I think I may have just half overheard a few minutes of the commentary on that as I emptied the dishwasher. Sounded remorselessly poor.k the Icebergs!!!!!
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