Meanwhile, In Syria
Discussion
Art0ir said:
Transmitter Man said:
Art,
Two of those 'extremist' groups have just today been accepted by the regime to take part in the Geneva talks.
How can they be extremist when the regime allow them in to talks?
Someones bending the truth, especially when said group's made up of Syrian citizens.
We're not talking AQ or IS here. I just think you want the talks to fail.
Phil
Ansar Al Islam - Al Qaeda affiliatesTwo of those 'extremist' groups have just today been accepted by the regime to take part in the Geneva talks.
How can they be extremist when the regime allow them in to talks?
Someones bending the truth, especially when said group's made up of Syrian citizens.
We're not talking AQ or IS here. I just think you want the talks to fail.
Phil
Ahrar al-Sham - Very friendly with Al Qaeda and multiple reports of Christian massacres
Al Muthana Islamic Movement - ISIL supporters
Most of the others in the list funded from Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.
But not to worry, lots of them have told reporters they're definitely, 100% not bad people.
I hope the talks bring about a reduction in the death toll, but I'm confident at this stage this conflict will only be resolved when the region's borders are redrawn.
Assad is a b%stard, but he is one the world can deal with. This motley collection of crazies, religious fanatics, megalomaniacs, psychopaths and mercenaries are not. That is unless you want the Paris attacks, 7/7, Madrid bombings, 9/11 to become common occurrences. As things stand, Erdogan is more of a danger to world, regional peace and stability, than Assad has ever been.
How crazy has the world become when Al Qaeda is considered moderate?
Developments in Syria. It beings to explain the new verve being shown by Turkey, Saudi and Co.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-04/closing-r...
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-04/closing-r...
dudleybloke said:
I enjoyed watching it, a pragmatist. The line "The injustices were spread evenly" from the point of view of the population of secular dictatorships certainly made sense. Edited by QuantumTokoloshi on Sunday 7th February 20:29
Saudi Arabia and the USA are playing with fire here, playing at soldiers in the middle of a Middle East power struggle, with nuclear armed opponents on either side. The lesson of WWI have clearly been forgotten, where events can and will, run away from you.
The military brinkmanship is getting ridiculous now.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-09/saudi-ara...
The military brinkmanship is getting ridiculous now.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-09/saudi-ara...
AJS- said:
I get the impression Zero Hedge is written from a nuclear bunker stocked with baked beans and filtered water.
So true, You got to scan through the stories, else you get sucked into this vortex of "the end is nigh, repent sinners" or "Zio-nazi on rollerskates, in the deep state are out to get you !"Edited by QuantumTokoloshi on Tuesday 9th February 15:17
Haha yep. They cover some interesting stories and their analysis is interesting, but it's like worst case plus and then some.
A more sober analysis at Newsweek suggests it's just brinksmanship.
It would be utter carnage if they decided to do that but I don't think they have the resources or the will, especially knowing that they would be up against Iran and Russia. And I don't see WW3 as being much of an election winner for anyone in the US.
The comments from Jeb Bush, with his heritage and all, are a bit ominous though.
A more sober analysis at Newsweek suggests it's just brinksmanship.
It would be utter carnage if they decided to do that but I don't think they have the resources or the will, especially knowing that they would be up against Iran and Russia. And I don't see WW3 as being much of an election winner for anyone in the US.
The comments from Jeb Bush, with his heritage and all, are a bit ominous though.
Steady gains, in the North and South of Syria by the Syrian government.
https://youtu.be/OyjNykc0c8Q
I suspect these events are not in the plan, Saudi, Turkey or the USA had in mind for Syria. This will bring an escalation but what is that going to be.
https://youtu.be/OyjNykc0c8Q
I suspect these events are not in the plan, Saudi, Turkey or the USA had in mind for Syria. This will bring an escalation but what is that going to be.
AJS- said:
Haha yep. They cover some interesting stories and their analysis is interesting, but it's like worst case plus and then some.
A more sober analysis at Newsweek suggests it's just brinksmanship.
It would be utter carnage if they decided to do that but I don't think they have the resources or the will, especially knowing that they would be up against Iran and Russia. And I don't see WW3 as being much of an election winner for anyone in the US.
The comments from Jeb Bush, with his heritage and all, are a bit ominous though.
I find this quote ironic, considering they want to include Saudi Arabia in this organisation.A more sober analysis at Newsweek suggests it's just brinksmanship.
It would be utter carnage if they decided to do that but I don't think they have the resources or the will, especially knowing that they would be up against Iran and Russia. And I don't see WW3 as being much of an election winner for anyone in the US.
The comments from Jeb Bush, with his heritage and all, are a bit ominous though.
"he said the United States should create “an organization like NATO” to confront not just ISIS, but “the rise of violent extremism and…the root causes underlying [its] brutal acts."
Yeah, I agree with the idea of a grand coalition against Islamism which could include Russia and the US, but the idea that it would include Saudi Arabia is ludicrous. Unfortunately it seems that many in Washington (and London for that matter) would rather see Russia as the enemy at any cost.
Obama's motives are very strange with this. If he was trying to destabilize the region and assist the cause of radical Islam I can't imagine he would be doing very much different.
Obama's motives are very strange with this. If he was trying to destabilize the region and assist the cause of radical Islam I can't imagine he would be doing very much different.
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