Meanwhile, In Syria

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Transmitter Man

4,253 posts

225 months

Friday 13th June 2014
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEj4ujheWC8&fe...

Terrorists?

Some here seem to think so.

Phil

Art0ir

9,402 posts

171 months

Friday 13th June 2014
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Phil, are you really still in denial of reality?

Two dozen guys having a sing song (about who knows what) negates the fact that western backed extremists are well on the way to forming an Islamic caliphate spanning international borders and crucifying and beheading other Muslim sects, Jews, Christians and anyone else who doesn't fit into their niche?

QuantumTokoloshi

4,164 posts

218 months

Friday 13th June 2014
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Transmitter Man said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEj4ujheWC8&fe...

Terrorists?

Some here seem to think so.

Phil
I will give you 10/10 for persistence, 0/10 for comprehension though.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Friday 13th June 2014
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QuantumTokoloshi said:
Transmitter Man said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEj4ujheWC8&fe...

Terrorists?

Some here seem to think so.

Phil
I will give you 10/10 for persistence, 0/10 for comprehension though.
You are being generous on the latter point. wink

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Friday 13th June 2014
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that's just too good English for them even if they had a teacher around, it's clearly written by a native English speaker...

Transmitter Man

4,253 posts

225 months

Friday 13th June 2014
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I love to generate the response.

Denial rofl

QuantumTokoloshi

4,164 posts

218 months

Friday 13th June 2014
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Transmitter Man said:
I love to generate the response.

Denial rofl
Denials of what? A bunch of people, no more than 20, have a problem with Assad. Standing around singing with a sign. And?

I notice you are in denial about my questions too.


Transmitter Man

4,253 posts

225 months

Tuesday 17th June 2014
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Not in denial about anything.

As well as RT I watch and read other media outlets.

Today on the wire; ISIS is FINALLY being differentiated from Syrian rebels which IMO helps Syrian Revolution; but AQ and FSA are still integrated under the concept of "rebels", which is still a major obstacle to gaining greater support from the American PEOPLE and the US government (Obama cannot act entirely alone and needs approval of Congress ... a legacy of Bush2 and Bliar).

Art0ir

9,402 posts

171 months

Tuesday 17th June 2014
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Transmitter Man said:
(Obama cannot act entirely alone and needs approval of Congress...
You mean the like Marines deployed in Iraq yesterday?

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Tuesday 17th June 2014
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Transmitter Man said:
Not in denial about anything.

As well as RT I watch and read other media outlets.

Today on the wire; ISIS is FINALLY being differentiated from Syrian rebels which IMO helps Syrian Revolution; but AQ and FSA are still integrated under the concept of "rebels", which is still a major obstacle to gaining greater support from the American PEOPLE and the US government (Obama cannot act entirely alone and needs approval of Congress ... a legacy of Bush2 and Bliar).
FSA is basically non-existant today, they've been hammered by army, ISIS, Al-Nusra...there are now more FSA members in Turkey than in Syria....

Transmitter Man

4,253 posts

225 months

Tuesday 17th June 2014
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Not forgetting those that have actually changed sides to the not so moderate opposition groups who have not shortage of weapons.

I'd be interested in your thoughts as to whether Syria would of got into this mess if 'any' of the western powers had gone in early?

Also, I wonder is Assad has ever thought it just may of been better to not come down so hard on the students and their parents in Deraa who painted the graffiti on the school walls that kicked all this off in the first place.

Maybe five whips of the cane would of sufficed.

Phil

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Tuesday 17th June 2014
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it didn't have sod all to do with Assad and his actions, it was just an attempt of coup funded by Qatar and Saudis mainly, the same thing succeeded in Lybia(which is now a total anarchy btw) but not in Syria for various reasons

Syria was (and still is) a much more free and democratic place than, say, those two countries

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Tuesday 17th June 2014
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Transmitter Man said:
Also, I wonder is Assad has ever thought it just may of been better to not come down so hard on the students and their parents in Deraa who painted the graffiti on the school walls that kicked all this off in the first place.

Maybe five whips of the cane would of sufficed.

Phil
No saints here, but different climate/culture/habit.

skyrover

12,674 posts

205 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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Transmitter Man said:
ISIS and the FSA/IF are not only on opposite sides but have different agendas.

Both have versions of TOW's/ATGM's.

One side stole them (or maybe they were left out for them to collect)

The other side were authorised them.

Some are Russian made while other more modern units are US made, the latter having the benefit of laser and or heat-seeking capabilities.

Phil
They are using Chinese HJ-8's for the most part I believe.

Quite a formidable ATGM despite being dated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HJ-8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnCP-QR5qA0

Transmitter Man

4,253 posts

225 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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The Chinese ATGM's look similar but have a slightly higher profile as compared to the Russian made Konkurs.

I think you will find many more of the Russian units have found their way into opposition hands due to the fact of Syria being one of the biggest, if not the biggest customer of Russian military hardware.

You can see one of the Russian units in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xic5dquE-zU&sn...

Bit of a waste on a brick wall but hey ho.

Phil


Transmitter Man

4,253 posts

225 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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The Turks are a strange bunch.

They have just today 'de-listed' Jabhat al-Nusra from their own list of terrorist groups:

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/dunya/84175/Tur...

Phil

skyrover

12,674 posts

205 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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A bit of a worry IMO about the direction Turkey's leaders are taking the country

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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Transmitter Man said:
The Turks are a strange bunch.

They have just today 'de-listed' Jabhat al-Nusra from their own list of terrorist groups:

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/dunya/84175/Tur...

Phil
because Turkey is now against ISIS so they are siding with ISIS opponents... enemy of my enemy is my friend...or something like that

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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Two men who were under criminal investigation have absconded from the UK intending to join jihadists in Syria, the BBC has learned.

One - Junaid Hussain of Birmingham - left the UK while on bail pending investigation for violent disorder.

The other, Abu Aziz from Luton, has been convicted in his absence of an attack on a member of the public.




http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27911081

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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