Meanwhile, In Syria

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Cobnapint

8,631 posts

151 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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Gandahar said:
I've just bought a Hezbollah flag as they the good guys at present.

Working with Iran and Syria and Russia but against IS.

Will be buying more flags depending on how things go.
biglaugh

QuantumTokoloshi

4,164 posts

217 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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Gandahar said:
I've just bought a Hezbollah flag as they the good guys at present.

Working with Iran and Syria and Russia but against IS.

Will be buying more flags depending on how things go.
Put me down for 1, maybe a group buy? laugh

We need to get some AL Qaeda flags too, as they are now moderates and fighting ISIS too !idea

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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AJS- said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
Lots of people telling us this will not work, that will not work and its all pointless. Far fewer if any saying what should be done.
To what end? Any why?

You can't come up with a solution to an undefined problem.
You don't see the problem. Dear me.

Hilts

4,391 posts

282 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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GG89 said:
Gandahar said:
I've just bought a Hezbollah flag as they the good guys at present.

Working with Iran and Syria and Russia but against IS.

Will be buying more flags depending on how things go.
Why?
Jokes are not your speciality huh?

No problem.

Cobnapint

8,631 posts

151 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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Hilts said:
GG89 said:
Gandahar said:
I've just bought a Hezbollah flag as they the good guys at present.

Working with Iran and Syria and Russia but against IS.

Will be buying more flags depending on how things go.
Why?
Jokes are not your speciality huh?

No problem.
Go easy. He might be a HAL 9000.

Godalmighty83

417 posts

254 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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QuantumTokoloshi said:
Put me down for 1, maybe a group buy? laugh

We need to get some AL Qaeda flags too, as they are now moderates and fighting ISIS too !idea
Or maybe the first guys to bring up the threat ISIS posed, the Taliban.

QuantumTokoloshi

4,164 posts

217 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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Godalmighty83 said:
QuantumTokoloshi said:
Put me down for 1, maybe a group buy? laugh

We need to get some AL Qaeda flags too, as they are now moderates and fighting ISIS too !idea
Or maybe the first guys to bring up the threat ISIS posed, the Taliban.
If I put up all these good guys and moderate flags, I might just get a visit from MI5, rather than Santa this Christmas.

Wills2

22,839 posts

175 months

Sunday 6th December 2015
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RYH64E said:
Defence Secretary Michael Fallon said 'Last night saw the full force of the RAF', four aircraft? Seriously?
We've got about 220 Typhoons and Tornados?

AJS-

15,366 posts

236 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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REALIST123 said:
You don't see the problem. Dear me.
I see many problems. I don't see any that can be easily bombed out of existence with a happy ending.

QuantumTokoloshi

4,164 posts

217 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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Violating airspace for 17 seconds is sufficient reason to take military action for Turkey, I suspect the Russians will be quite happy to assist Iraq invite the Turkish army to leave.

Edrogan needs to keep That ISIS oil flowing.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-06/iraq-may-...

Edited by QuantumTokoloshi on Monday 7th December 08:22

grumbledoak

31,535 posts

233 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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And we're blowing up the wrong people. Or is that the right people? Who knows?
http://news.google.co.uk/news/url?sr=1&ct2=uk%...

QuantumTokoloshi

4,164 posts

217 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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grumbledoak said:
And we're blowing up the wrong people. Or is that the right people? Who knows?
http://news.google.co.uk/news/url?sr=1&ct2=uk%...
Reuters quoting the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights? The one man band corner shop owner in Coventry! Reporters are clearly going on holiday early.

aeropilot

34,614 posts

227 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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Wills2 said:
RYH64E said:
Defence Secretary Michael Fallon said 'Last night saw the full force of the RAF', four aircraft? Seriously?
We've got about 220 Typhoons and Tornados?
What's 'on the books' and what can actually be deployed are very different in terms of numbers.

Fallon's quotes to the press in the past few weeks have been nothing short of shocking, but, the fact remains that the RAF is but a shadow of it what it was even back in the GW1 era of 25 years ago....let alone cold war era.
As has been said many a time, quantity is a quality in itself.
The boys n girls of all the services will still do the professional job asked of them though as usual.

Transmitter Man

4,253 posts

224 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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QuantumTokoloshi said:
Reuters quoting the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights? The one man band corner shop owner in Coventry! Reporters are clearly going on holiday early.
Let's offer a little reverse engineering here shall we.

Mr Corner shop is an independent clearing house for news from Syria and the region. He clearly states this on his site.

Here I would assume are but some of his sources as listed on Brown Moses blog:

http://brown-moses.blogspot.com.cy/2012/06/syrian-...

So, comparing your bosses channel, Press TV or RTV against those sites in the above list to get an idea of what is really happening 'in the field' I know who I'd choose for minimal political bias.

But remember, this is only my opinion and we're all entitled to one of those.

Phil

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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Syria blame the Americans, the Americans blame the Russians. I have a feeling this script will be repeated quite a lot in the future.


article said:
BEIRUT — The U.S. military alleged Monday that Russian warplanes were responsible for an attack on a Syrian army position in eastern Syria, an airstrike that Syria blamed on the U.S.-led coalition battling the Islamic State militant group in the country.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/us-denies-syrian-accusations-that-its-warplanes-hit-a-syrian-base/2015/12/07/db72a0fb-cc62-49c8-a5ed-997c2e6e1f98_story.html

james_tigerwoods

16,287 posts

197 months

Tuesday 8th December 2015
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More finger pointing here, although, I'm not sure how valid this link or story is about the US involvement with ISIL oil.

http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines-2015/obamas-i...

As an aside, is it ISIS, ISIL, or something else now? I'm confused by all the different names...

QuantumTokoloshi

4,164 posts

217 months

Tuesday 8th December 2015
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Transmitter Man said:
QuantumTokoloshi said:
Reuters quoting the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights? The one man band corner shop owner in Coventry! Reporters are clearly going on holiday early.
Let's offer a little reverse engineering here shall we.

Mr Corner shop is an independent clearing house for news from Syria and the region. He clearly states this on his site.

Here I would assume are but some of his sources as listed on Brown Moses blog:

http://brown-moses.blogspot.com.cy/2012/06/syrian-...

So, comparing your bosses channel, Press TV or RTV against those sites in the above list to get an idea of what is really happening 'in the field' I know who I'd choose for minimal political bias.

But remember, this is only my opinion and we're all entitled to one of those.

Phil
I have no particular allegiance to any news outlet, Press, RT, Al jazeera, BBC, Fox, Sky, Reuters etc. all have their specific bias. As long as you recognise that, why not?

You might want to give John Pilger's documentary "The war you do not see" a watch, specifically the admissions by the BBC and US broadcasters etc. about the glaring failures and manipulations when reporting the Iraq war and justification for it.

https://vimeo.com/67739294

Calling the "Syrian observatory for Human rights" a clearing house for news, is the same as calling a Robin Reliant a supercar. We could just as well call this thread "The International Council for Syrian reconciliation and discussion".

It does not change the fact that it is a corner shop owner who has a Google news alert setup on Syria, being portrayed as the definitive guide to the Syrian war, lazy reporting by Reuters.

http://harpers.org/blog/2015/12/mountain-ambush

An analysis of the shooting down of the Russian plane, raises some worrying questions as to both the action but also why it was done, which seems to have only inflamed the situation on the border, bringing NATO and Russia closer to conflict for no discernible benefit.

Edited by QuantumTokoloshi on Tuesday 8th December 08:41

scherzkeks

4,460 posts

134 months

Tuesday 8th December 2015
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The observatory himself. Bag of crisps just off camera. laugh

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Tuesday 8th December 2015
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Isn't it surprising that the non-IS, non-fighty opposition to the Syrian government doesn't have a well funded news operation like that of the government? Shame on them!

scherzkeks

4,460 posts

134 months

Tuesday 8th December 2015
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Zod said:
Isn't it surprising that the non-IS, non-fighty opposition to the Syrian government doesn't have a well funded news operation like that of the government? Shame on them!
The EU subsidies and the contributions he receives from a donor country he refuses to name suffice, I am sure. That aside, my issue is more that the name conveys some sort of authority. In true Orwellian style, like all of the Empire's propaganda.