Meanwhile, In Syria
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There's been little to no manpad use for at least a year AFAIK in Syria. A few video's but no downed heli's or aircraft, well, maybe one.
All others hit by poor maintenance, Turkey, AAG or TOW's when coming into land.
Assad & Russia have been flying to high for them to be of any use a ECM can knock our their IR sensors.
Phil
All others hit by poor maintenance, Turkey, AAG or TOW's when coming into land.
Assad & Russia have been flying to high for them to be of any use a ECM can knock our their IR sensors.
Phil
Palmyra retaken by Syrian Army from ISIS, with help from Russian Air-strikes.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleea...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleea...
LOOKS LIKE THEY VOTED WITH THEIR FEET!
Funny that Assad & Western media call taking of Palmyra "liberation" while all residents fled to #ISIS held territory & not to regime's.
I think the civilians fled because they rightly feared a carpet bombing attack from the russians. That's exactly what Putin did. The Assad army will take over a wasteland. Still it puts them nearer to Raqqa and to Deir Azzor which is where Putin wants to be, overlooking the Euphrates Valley.
The Russian air-force's inability to precision bomb is becoming more obvious as this campaign proceeds.
Phil
Funny that Assad & Western media call taking of Palmyra "liberation" while all residents fled to #ISIS held territory & not to regime's.
I think the civilians fled because they rightly feared a carpet bombing attack from the russians. That's exactly what Putin did. The Assad army will take over a wasteland. Still it puts them nearer to Raqqa and to Deir Azzor which is where Putin wants to be, overlooking the Euphrates Valley.
The Russian air-force's inability to precision bomb is becoming more obvious as this campaign proceeds.
Phil
Edited by Transmitter Man on Sunday 27th March 17:41
Transmitter Man said:
I think the civilians fled because they rightly feared a carpet bombing attack from the russians. That's exactly what Putin did. The Assad army will take over a wasteland. Still it puts them nearer to Raqqa and to Deir Azzor which is where Putin wants to be, overlooking the Euphrates Valley.
The Russian air-force's inability to precision bomb is becoming more obvious as this campaign proceeds
Putin has withdrawn his military. How could you possibly suggest that he's carpet bombed with unguided munitions.The Russian air-force's inability to precision bomb is becoming more obvious as this campaign proceeds
Outrageous, hey QT...?
Cobnapint said:
Transmitter Man said:
I think the civilians fled because they rightly feared a carpet bombing attack from the russians. That's exactly what Putin did. The Assad army will take over a wasteland. Still it puts them nearer to Raqqa and to Deir Azzor which is where Putin wants to be, overlooking the Euphrates Valley.
The Russian air-force's inability to precision bomb is becoming more obvious as this campaign proceeds
Putin has withdrawn his military. How could you possibly suggest that he's carpet bombed with unguided munitions.The Russian air-force's inability to precision bomb is becoming more obvious as this campaign proceeds
Outrageous, hey QT...?
There is actually peace in parts of Syria, that have not had peace in almost 5 years. The Russian method may not be to your liking, but it is effective, unlike the derisory NATO attempts, please enlighten us to the great UK, US and NATO successes against ISIS in Syria ?
Criticism of bombing campaigns? Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia etc. had their fair share of precision guided civilian freedom and democracy deaths, but those were precision guided deaths, a much better quality of death.
Putin has not withdrawn his entire military, he still has the naval and airbase, but lets not let facts in the way here.
Transmitter Man said:
LOOKS LIKE THEY VOTED WITH THEIR FEET!
Funny that Assad & Western media call taking of Palmyra "liberation" while all residents fled to #ISIS held territory & not to regime's.
lol first you moaned about Russians allegedly not attacking ISIS now when they liberate places from ISIS you moan again...Funny that Assad & Western media call taking of Palmyra "liberation" while all residents fled to #ISIS held territory & not to regime's.
vonuber said:
What the hell is going on with the Americans?!!!!QuantumTokoloshi said:
Cobnapint said:
Transmitter Man said:
I think the civilians fled because they rightly feared a carpet bombing attack from the russians. That's exactly what Putin did. The Assad army will take over a wasteland. Still it puts them nearer to Raqqa and to Deir Azzor which is where Putin wants to be, overlooking the Euphrates Valley.
The Russian air-force's inability to precision bomb is becoming more obvious as this campaign proceeds
Putin has withdrawn his military. How could you possibly suggest that he's carpet bombed with unguided munitions.The Russian air-force's inability to precision bomb is becoming more obvious as this campaign proceeds
Outrageous, hey QT...?
Putin has not withdrawn his entire military, he still has the naval and airbase, but lets not let facts in the way here.
You can't exactly go wrong in killing the enemy if you carpet/cluster bomb whole towns can you? You don't have to be some kind of great military strategist (like you seem to think he is) if you just walk in and bomb everything in sight. You can't fking miss!
Conversely, British and US drone strikes are regularly called off in different theatres if there's any hint of civilian casualties. I'm not saying some don't get caught, but at least the rules are there.
Interesting how you admit that Putin is a lying when you say ISIS initially wasn't the primary target. Putin said it was.
Putin also said he'd withdrawn his military. He hasn't, just like he didn't on numerous occasions in E Ukraine. Lying again.
You've either withdrawn your military, or you haven't. And he hasn't. But like you say, lets not let facts in the way here...
From the Huff Post....
As one Russian military journalist told Radio Free Europe, “The fleet remains; antiaircraft systems remain; the tanks remain; all the marines remain; the helicopters remain; some of the aircraft will remain. Only some of the aircraft and their service personnel are being taken out. And they can come back, of course, in the space of three or four hours.”
Cobnapint said:
From the Huff Post....
As one Russian military journalist told Radio Free Europe, “The fleet remains; antiaircraft systems remain; the tanks remain; all the marines remain; the helicopters remain; some of the aircraft will remain. Only some of the aircraft and their service personnel are being taken out. And they can come back, of course, in the space of three or four hours.”
oh dear LORD the Huff? You may as well read Pravda or Socialist Worker and claim to get unbiased reporting! That being said there is a good reason that a lot of these men and materials remain - Russia have a honking big naval base in Syria which is not a recent developmentAs one Russian military journalist told Radio Free Europe, “The fleet remains; antiaircraft systems remain; the tanks remain; all the marines remain; the helicopters remain; some of the aircraft will remain. Only some of the aircraft and their service personnel are being taken out. And they can come back, of course, in the space of three or four hours.”
vonuber said:
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