Meanwhile, In Syria

[QuantumTokoloshi]

NATO supporting ISIS, seems the good "guys" are the "bad" guys or the other way round, either way Syria is the loser.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-29/erdogan-f...

[Cobnapint]

QuantumTokoloshi said:

NATO supporting ISIS...

You know that's not true. You also know Erdogan is a loose cannon wannabe dictator that cannot be trusted.

[Sam All]

Turkish PM says 20 Syrians have been readmitted to Turkey under EU deal

Bargain - how much are we paying them?

[QuantumTokoloshi]

Cobnapint said:

QuantumTokoloshi said:

NATO supporting ISIS...

You know that's not true. You also know Erdogan is a loose cannon wannabe dictator that cannot be trusted.

You have the USA supplying weapons and training to "moderate groups", and those weapons and trained fighters, just happen to end up with ISIS. The Toyota trucks, bought in middle America, and somehow, just happened to be used by ISIS, or the "Divison 30" bad joke, or the weapons supplies / air drops that just happened to end up with ISIS. The seeming inability of the US Air force to find and bomb static ISIS oil installations or multi-kilometre long lines of oil tankers in and out of ISIS territory.

This was the same NATO members, UK and USA, that tried to convince the world that Al Qaeda / Al Nusra was a moderate faction in Syria. The training of radical fighters in Qatar, in Jordan by NATO member intelligence services. The UK supplying logistics and evidence of training of these "moderate" groups, who just happen to end up fighting with ISIS.

Erdogan is a loose cannon and mini-me Sultan dictator, agreed, but he is also a NATO member, and the other major NATO members seem to have a oddly warped agenda in Syria.

Edited by QuantumTokoloshi on Saturday 30th April 20:50

[Driller]

Quantum talking sense as usual. However, much as I agree, I can't stand this kind of attempt at emotive propaganda using photos/vids of kids whichever side it's on:



Someone posted a kids shoe before all ripped up and with what looked like blood on it. Journalists/propagandists can and do set up these images for their agenda.

[QuantumTokoloshi]

Driller said:

Quantum talking sense as usual. However, much as I agree, I can't stand this kind of attempt at emotive propaganda using photos/vids of kids whichever side it's on:



Someone posted a kids shoe before all ripped up and with what looked like blood on it. Journalists/propagandists can and do set up these images for their agenda.

I agree, a sad fact but a favourite of the news media. It gets a more visceral reaction out of the viewers.

[QuantumTokoloshi]

This is well worth taking the time to watch, it is primarily about Germany, but gives a great insight into Russia and Russian thinking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CNeDtZmpjU

[QuantumTokoloshi]

Isis found with manufacturing and stores of chemical weapons. Wow, there is a surprise.

http://thesaker.is/international-military-review-s...

[Liokault]

QuantumTokoloshi said:

Isis found with manufacturing and stores of chemical weapons. Wow, there is a surprise.

http://thesaker.is/international-military-review-s...

Is that the single most partisan website on the internetz?

[QuantumTokoloshi]

Liokault said:

QuantumTokoloshi said:

Isis found with manufacturing and stores of chemical weapons. Wow, there is a surprise.

http://thesaker.is/international-military-review-s...

Is that the single most partisan website on the internetz?

It certainly is, but it is useful to see the reports from an alternative perspective and it carries the Russian military briefings which are not easy to find.

The Russian version of Fox news I suppose.

[Transmitter Man]

This guy produces excellent maps of the Syrian conflict.

To the uninformed it may look like IS and affiliates still have large swathes of the country however much of it is desert areas.

https://archicivilians.wordpress.com/2016/05/26/ma...

Phil

[QuantumTokoloshi]

What Syrians see of their war, notice the "moderate" FSA.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-05/what-most...

[Transmitter Man]

QuantumTokoloshi said:

What Syrians see of their war, notice the "moderate" FSA.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-05/what-most...

I've not read such tripe in a long time.

Phil

[scherzkeks]

QuantumTokoloshi said:

What Syrians see of their war, notice the "moderate" FSA.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-05/what-most...

Thanks for posting that.

[QuantumTokoloshi]

Comedy but accurate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tF-5Xg_byk

[Driller]

Excellent!

[QuantumTokoloshi]

The Neo-cons are still alive and well, the "moderate" Al Nusra / Al Qaeda might not quite fit the enemy of my enemy is my friend. It seems the USA has forgotten 9/11 and who the perpetrators of that attack was?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36556261

Dozens of US State Department officials have signed an internal memo protesting against US policy in Syria and calling for targeted military strikes against President Bashar al-Assad's government.

They argue the current approach is working against the Syrian opposition and helping Mr Assad to stay in power.

Edited by QuantumTokoloshi on Friday 17th June 10:37

[scherzkeks]

QuantumTokoloshi said:

The Neo-cons are still alive and well, the "moderate" Al Nusra / Al Qaeda might not quite fit the enemy of my enemy is my friend. It seems the USA forgotten 9/11 and who the perpetrators of that attack was?

Oh, I highly doubt that. But that is classified at such a level that it will never reach the light of day.

[QuantumTokoloshi]

scherzkeks said:

QuantumTokoloshi said:

The Neo-cons are still alive and well, the "moderate" Al Nusra / Al Qaeda might not quite fit the enemy of my enemy is my friend. It seems the USA forgotten 9/11 and who the perpetrators of that attack was?

Oh, I highly doubt that. But that is classified at such a level that it will never reach the light of day.

The Saudis will make sure of that.

[BlackLabel]

"US air strike killed more than 85 civilians, including children, in Syria on Tuesday after the coalition mistook them for Islamic State fighters."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/19/us-air-...