Meanwhile, In Syria

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Rogue86

2,008 posts

144 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Nobody concerned that a NATO member state are attacking the Kurds under a flimsy pretence knowing that their ranks are stocked full of US/UK fighters?

Hosenbugler

1,854 posts

101 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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Rogue86 said:
Nobody concerned that a NATO member state are attacking the Kurds under a flimsy pretence knowing that their ranks are stocked full of US/UK fighters?
Its positively alarming. According to a Sky newsticker this morning , Erdogan has stated the operation by Turkish forces in Syria will continue despite the US being deeply concerned , or similar phraseology. I'll not be surprised if the Turks stick their noses in too far that the Yanks take violent action.

AreOut

3,658 posts

160 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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the problem is any negative action towards E pushes him even more towards Russia...and the tt knows it

scherzkeks

4,460 posts

133 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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QuantumTokoloshi said:
One small issue there, specifically around the " us officials confirmed" bit.

Were these the same officials that confirmed the existence of Iraqi WMDs? Let us hope not.
Regarding the gas attack, this might be of interest (not that anyone takes this morality stuff seriously):

http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/26/exclusive-cia-...

QuantumTokoloshi

4,161 posts

216 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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scherzkeks said:
QuantumTokoloshi said:
One small issue there, specifically around the " us officials confirmed" bit.

Were these the same officials that confirmed the existence of Iraqi WMDs? Let us hope not.
Regarding the gas attack, this might be of interest (not that anyone takes this morality stuff seriously):

http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/26/exclusive-cia-...
A compelling and disturbing read.

The Don of Croy

5,975 posts

158 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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The ceasefire is holding...for 24 hours anyways.

At least one UK politician is speaking some sense;

From John Redwoods diary

"As for Syria, the West needs to understand that its attempt to find moderate rebels against the Assad regime who can both stay moderate and fight their way to a victory against both Assad and ISIL was never a credible policy."

There are many things I fear we'll never understand, but sometimes I wish we'd admit it and stand back.

Cobnapint

8,596 posts

150 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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The Don of Croy said:
The ceasefire is holding...for 24 hours anyways.
Who's turn is it to break it?

When the word 'ceasefire' is mentioned, it's usually time to keep your head down lower than normal.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

122 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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Charming fellas these moderate FSA rebel allies of ours are.

US troops forced out of Syrian town by anti-Assad rebels

article said:
Dogs, agents of America,” one man can be heard to say in Arabic, according to a translation by Middle East Eye, while others chant “They are crusaders and infidels”, “Down with America”, “'Get out you pigs” and “They are coming to Syria to occupy it”.

The episode will be deeply embarrassing to the US as it struggles with criticism that it lacks a coherent Syria policy. The FSA is seen by the US as a “moderate” rebel group fighting to bring down the regime of Bashar al-Assad.

rich85uk

3,312 posts

178 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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BlackLabel said:
Charming fellas these moderate FSA rebel allies of ours are.

US troops forced out of Syrian town by anti-Assad rebels

article said:
Dogs, agents of America,” one man can be heard to say in Arabic, according to a translation by Middle East Eye, while others chant “They are crusaders and infidels”, “Down with America”, “'Get out you pigs” and “They are coming to Syria to occupy it”.

The episode will be deeply embarrassing to the US as it struggles with criticism that it lacks a coherent Syria policy. The FSA is seen by the US as a “moderate” rebel group fighting to bring down the regime of Bashar al-Assad.
Ah those lovely 'moderate rebels' that the US and Turkey have backedhehe

what a fking mess though, as every week passes the more complicated this Syrian 'civil war' becomes and drags Turkey, Lebanon and Iraq down with it

Cobnapint

8,596 posts

150 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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It's time we learnt the lesson.

No matter WHO we help out in that region, they always end up turning against us.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

122 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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The Americans "accidentally" bomb Syrian troops. I imagine IS can't believe their luck, they're now being given air support by the largest airforce in the world.

The US-led coalition has admitted its planes carried out an attack in eastern Syria that the Russian army says killed at least 62 Syrian troops fighting IS. The US said its planes halted the attack in Deir al-Zour when informed of the Syrian presence and would not knowingly strike them.

Edited by BlackLabel on Saturday 17th September 21:46

Sylvaforever

2,212 posts

97 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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They had it coming though. US SF have had to call in USAF top cover to chase off Turkish bomber who were bombing them.

AreOut

3,658 posts

160 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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those 2 incidents aren't connected in any way, deir ez zor is 200 miles from turkey

Cobnapint

8,596 posts

150 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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So, the coalition mistakenly hit Syrian troops and own up to it, and a few days later either the Russian or Syrian AF hit a Syrian red cross aid convoy in what is in my opinion, a rather pathetic tit for tat response.

Who's going to deny it first? And will the Russian ambassador to the UN, Vitaly Churkinto, be as quick to be spit in to the mic as he was the other day...?

Zod

35,295 posts

257 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Meanwhile, Assad's men have bombed a UN aid convoy and depot.

No doubt scherzkeks etc will decide this was done by Blackwater.

chris watton

22,477 posts

259 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Zod said:
Meanwhile, Assad's men have bombed a UN aid convoy and depot.

No doubt scherzkeks etc will decide this was done by Blackwater.
Nah, I was thinking Treadstone....

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

122 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Bomb them in their homes, then bomb the aid sent to feed them. Horrific.

scherzkeks

4,460 posts

133 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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BlackLabel said:
The Americans "accidentally" bomb Syrian troops. I imagine IS can't believe their luck, they're now being given air support by the largest airforce in the world.

The US-led coalition has admitted its planes carried out an attack in eastern Syria that the Russian army says killed at least 62 Syrian troops fighting IS. The US said its planes halted the attack in Deir al-Zour when informed of the Syrian presence and would not knowingly strike them.

Edited by BlackLabel on Saturday 17th September 21:46
We still can't seem to hit the right guys?

Say it ain't so.

Cobnapint

8,596 posts

150 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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scherzkeks said:
We still can't seem to hit the right guys?

Say it ain't so.
Mistakes happen in wars, the Yanks have owned up, always do.

Russian and Syrian forces make mistakes too, AND commit deliberate acts on top. They never own up.

You 'can' see the difference..... can't you....?

scherzkeks

4,460 posts

133 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Cobnapint said:
Mistakes happen in wars, the Yanks have owned up, always do.

Russian and Syrian forces make mistakes too, AND commit deliberate acts on top. They never own up.

You 'can' see the difference..... can't you....?
Not as you describe it, no. I did enjoy reading your contribution, however.