Meanwhile, In Syria
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Puggit said:
Telegraph reporting that Iran and Hezbollah are looking likely to go in on the ground, using Russian air power.
This is big.
Telegraph are actually reporting they've been there for 10 days This is big.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/r...
It's getting near proper war now.
Asterix said:
Yay! Middle East should be nice and settled after this.
'After' is the operative word here.Tujamu Al Izza (FSA group bombed by Russia yesterday) using a TOW today to destroy a pickup gun truck.
Call them IS.
Looks to me like the driver dropped his coffee - forty foot in the air.
https://youtu.be/AqGuUbVtGl8
If the Lebanese war lasted 15 or so years with far fewer players and this mess is now now in it's fifth year I can see this lasting another decade.
If you think Pukin is the answer then I feel you're way off base.
Phil
Edited by Transmitter Man on Thursday 1st October 14:39
Edited by Transmitter Man on Thursday 1st October 14:43
The Shia groups will wipe the floor with those sunni crazies. they have been waiting for payback for years. Not to mention the hate towards the gulf sunni arab kingdoms that financed this whole mess. Iran has a chance to make a statement and they will take the chance.
Vlad is just going to play it cool and bomb the daylights out of anything that moves and call it 'terrorist'. They will round em all up and contain them by securing the syrian borders with turkey/lebanon/jordan/iraq, then squeeze.
Assad will come out victorious, set up the country and get it running, and then hand over. The guy is an eye doctor who lived in london with a british wife. he had to carry the legacy of his father, Im sure he would love to handover right now if there were any reasonable people there.
Only problem at the end of it all is that the damn gas pipeline to EU wont be built, USA will never mess around ME again, Vlad be flexing his muscles if anyone decides to venture east of europe.
What we need to do is disown our jihadis that are there right now, because i can see the whole humanitarian angle being wound up into taking back british jihadis and this will be a mess on our shores soon.
Vlad is just going to play it cool and bomb the daylights out of anything that moves and call it 'terrorist'. They will round em all up and contain them by securing the syrian borders with turkey/lebanon/jordan/iraq, then squeeze.
Assad will come out victorious, set up the country and get it running, and then hand over. The guy is an eye doctor who lived in london with a british wife. he had to carry the legacy of his father, Im sure he would love to handover right now if there were any reasonable people there.
Only problem at the end of it all is that the damn gas pipeline to EU wont be built, USA will never mess around ME again, Vlad be flexing his muscles if anyone decides to venture east of europe.
What we need to do is disown our jihadis that are there right now, because i can see the whole humanitarian angle being wound up into taking back british jihadis and this will be a mess on our shores soon.
Putin's strategy is to help ASSdolf defeat the MODERATES leaving only ASSdolf and the universally recognized TERRORISTS of AQ & ISH*T. He is counting on the USA/EU and international community to decide that ASSdolf is a better alternative than AQ and ISH*T and will join the Russia-ASSdolf-Iran axis in defeating TERRORISM in Syria.
Phil
Phil
scherzkeks said:
fblm said:
scherzkeks said:
Explain why the targeted killings that have taken place in recent years should not be subject to the legal process. Thanks.
Explain how I am supposed to answer such a stupidly vague question. Then explain why I should care that they were targeted rather than simply killed as enemy combatants. Here's a simple rule of thumb; don't join ISIS in a war zone, don't get killed by a government ordered drone strike. It's worked for me so far.
andy_s said:
...ill-founded interventions without end-game...
FWIW I think that's a decent analysis. Regarding just the apparent lack of any end game, the need for one seems so blindingly obvious to everyone from GW2 to Syria that I wonder if this isn't it... Islam at civil war with it's self, Russias 'freinds' in the middle east hopelessly destabilised, our 'friends' still pumping oil and buying plenty of weapons to keep the lid on. I don't know what's less depressing; having an idiotic western leadership that stumbled into this mess unwittingly or a sociopathic leadership and its all part of a grand machavelian plan. Zod said:
QuantumTokoloshi said:
Did the USA not tacitly support another terrorist group in the recent past? The one which blew up Canary wharf, Manchester and Brighton? I guess they were also moderates.
Evidence? Something credible would be nice. fblm said:
andy_s said:
...ill-founded interventions without end-game...
FWIW I think that's a decent analysis. Regarding just the apparent lack of any end game, the need for one seems so blindingly obvious to everyone from GW2 to Syria that I wonder if this isn't it... Islam at civil war with it's self, Russia's 'Friends' in the middle east hopelessly destabilised, our 'friends' still pumping oil and buying plenty of weapons to keep the lid on. I don't know what's less depressing; having an idiotic western leadership that stumbled into this mess unwittingly or a sociopathic leadership and its all part of a grand Machavelian plan. QuantumTokoloshi said:
Zod said:
QuantumTokoloshi said:
Did the USA not tacitly support another terrorist group in the recent past? The one which blew up Canary wharf, Manchester and Brighton? I guess they were also moderates.
Evidence? Something credible would be nice. fblm said:
QuantumTokoloshi said:
Zod said:
QuantumTokoloshi said:
Did the USA not tacitly support another terrorist group in the recent past? The one which blew up Canary wharf, Manchester and Brighton? I guess they were also moderates.
Evidence? Something credible would be nice. But the US as a nation?... not really no
andy_s said:
Assad was being cuddled up to by the west just before the Arab Spring, just like Gaddafi was. Suddenly it all turned table and both became 'vile dictators' when in reality they held a disparate group of tribes together by exerting questionable methods, methods we chose to ignore when it suited us and were amplified when we thought the tide was turning.
fblm said:
QuantumTokoloshi said:
Zod said:
QuantumTokoloshi said:
Did the USA not tacitly support another terrorist group in the recent past? The one which blew up Canary wharf, Manchester and Brighton? I guess they were also moderates.
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