Japan Fukushima nuclear thread

[hidetheelephants]

Welshbeef said:

Whereas the cost of making a vast dome tomb over it sealing for ever is easily known. Why not go the easy route?

Vast domes cannot be guaranteed for more than a few hundred years; the NSC is warranted for 100 years and it cost £2bn. Even if a 'forever' dome could be engineered it would be prohibitively expensive and nothing about it would be easy.

[Welshbeef]

hidetheelephants said:

Welshbeef said:

Whereas the cost of making a vast dome tomb over it sealing for ever is easily known. Why not go the easy route?

Vast domes cannot be guaranteed for more than a few hundred years; the NSC is warranted for 100 years and it cost £2bn. Even if a 'forever' dome could be engineered it would be prohibitively expensive and nothing about it would be easy.

£2billion for 100 years v the £150billion spent to date...hmm they could have had 7,500 years of warranted back to back new domes.

[hidetheelephants]

The problem is that much of that notional 150bn is costs racked up because of asinine politicians making decisions for emotional reasons rather than actual radiological hazard; take out the radiophobia and the cost is much less.

[Welshbeef]

hidetheelephants said:

The problem is that much of that notional 150bn is costs racked up because of asinine politicians making decisions for emotional reasons rather than actual radiological hazard; take out the radiophobia and the cost is much less.

More than £2b?

[hidetheelephants]

Why the obsession with domes? The need for an environmental shield at Fukushima is nugatory, they'll probably just replace the damaged roof structures with much the same as before.

[mcdjl]

Unless the dome is going to stop the radioactive ground water leaking into the sea they'll have to do something beyond building a dome anyway.

[Gary C]

mcdjl said:

Unless the dome is going to stop the radioactive ground water leaking into the sea they'll have to do something beyond building a dome anyway.

Probably inject the ground with a solidification agent similar to the bomb machining building in Aldermaston.

[saaby93]

Gary C said:

Probably inject the ground with a solidification agent similar to the bomb machining building in Aldermaston.

tell more........

[hidetheelephants]

mcdjl said:

Unless the dome is going to stop the radioactive ground water leaking into the sea they'll have to do something beyond building a dome anyway.

They're already doing plenty to mitigate ground water ingress and prevent its escape; that's what the freeze wall was for and before that was attempted they were pumping huge quantities of water out of the local water table to reduce the amount flowing into the basement levels of the power station.

Edited by hidetheelephants on Sunday 12th February 19:44

[MOTORVATOR]

Given the number of volcanoes round that way I can't see them being short of a little sodium benonite if they put their minds to it.

[gowmonster]

forgot to post this ages ago, was reminded of it today, maybe it was posted before...

anyway

https://www.28dayslater.co.uk/fukushima-no-go-zone...

[jjlynn27]

gowmonster said:

forgot to post this ages ago, was reminded of it today, maybe it was posted before...

anyway

https://www.28dayslater.co.uk/fukushima-no-go-zone...

Thanks for posting that. Sobering read.

[hidetheelephants]

gowmonster said:

forgot to post this ages ago, was reminded of it today, maybe it was posted before...

anyway

https://www.28dayslater.co.uk/fukushima-no-go-zone...

2.3 microsieverts/hr! Stop the presses! He's been exposed to the pro-rata equivalent of what the annual occupational maximum was the last time I had sight of such information! ZOMG! He'll be killed to death!

[Einion Yrth]

hidetheelephants said:

gowmonster said:

forgot to post this ages ago, was reminded of it today, maybe it was posted before...

anyway

https://www.28dayslater.co.uk/fukushima-no-go-zone...

2.3 microsieverts/hr! Stop the presses! He's been exposed to the pro-rata equivalent of what the annual occupational maximum was the last time I had sight of such information! ZOMG! He'll be killed to death!

Be fair, if he was there two days it would amount to about as much as a chest x-ray.

[Gary C]

Einion Yrth said:

hidetheelephants said:

gowmonster said:

forgot to post this ages ago, was reminded of it today, maybe it was posted before...

anyway

https://www.28dayslater.co.uk/fukushima-no-go-zone...

2.3 microsieverts/hr! Stop the presses! He's been exposed to the pro-rata equivalent of what the annual occupational maximum was the last time I had sight of such information! ZOMG! He'll be killed to death!

Be fair, if he was there two days it would amount to about as much as a chest x-ray.

But still more than I get in a working week at a uk AGR,

but a LOT less than I got in 1/2 a day at an RBMK in Russia (managed to double my lifetime dose !)

[hairykrishna]

Great photos though.

[Don1]

A slightly ghoulish question.... With the 530 sieverts reading, how would you die? Spontaneously combust? Sudden toxic shock and everything would stop? Turn into the Gestapo officer in Raiders of the Lost Ark?

Asking for a friend, obviously.

[MartG]

Don1 said:

A slightly ghoulish question.... With the 530 sieverts reading, how would you die? Spontaneously combust? Sudden toxic shock and everything would stop? Turn into the Gestapo officer in Raiders of the Lost Ark?

Asking for a friend, obviously.

Let me Google that for you - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acute_radiation_synd...

[Don1]

Doesn't really answer - I'm guessing the answer is nobody really knows?

[MartG]

Don1 said:

Doesn't really answer - I'm guessing the answer is nobody really knows?

Err - you DID read the article, didn't you ? The effects of radiation of the human body are well known as victims of the Hiroshima & Nagasaki events were closely monitored.