Navy SEALS vs SAS vs SBS vs.....
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Certainly on HERRICK (Afghanistan) all 3 SF units from the UK have been doing the same sort of role. SRR have been doing more close recce stuff as you would expect though.
As for SAS being too high profile, personally reckon that is b
ks.
I have spoken to a bloke from 18 SIGNAL REGIMENT who does the comms for UKSF, some of the stories are phenomenal!
As for SAS being too high profile, personally reckon that is b
ks. I have spoken to a bloke from 18 SIGNAL REGIMENT who does the comms for UKSF, some of the stories are phenomenal!
dmulally said:
If I were going to invade a small African country though there would be no doubt who I would take. The Royal Marines. I had the fun of participating in some sort of fked up nightmare they call an obstacle course that went for fking ever.
I'd be unsure of this train of thought, as they'd all end up riotously pissed and carrying out a mock beach assault on some wheelie bins. Naked. Shouting "daggadaggadagaaa" as the pretend noise from their guns!ked up nightmare they call an obstacle course that went for fking ever. Highly amusing to watch, if a little bewildering and just a bit wrong!
I was on a parachuting course with a load of marines and some of them were cacking it to jump. Their sense of teamwork is outstanding though, so in the end all of them made at least a couple of jumps as their buddys wouldn't allow them to chicken out. They stick together like the proverbial 'band of brothers'.
rodgerramjet said:
dmulally said:
If I were going to invade a small African country though there would be no doubt who I would take. The Royal Marines. I had the fun of participating in some sort of fked up nightmare they call an obstacle course that went for fking ever.
I'd be unsure of this train of thought, as they'd all end up riotously pissed and carrying out a mock beach assault on some wheelie bins. Naked. Shouting "daggadaggadagaaa" as the pretend noise from their guns!ked up nightmare they call an obstacle course that went for fking ever. Highly amusing to watch, if a little bewildering and just a bit wrong!
I was on a parachuting course with a load of marines and some of them were cacking it to jump. Their sense of teamwork is outstanding though, so in the end all of them made at least a couple of jumps as their buddys wouldn't allow them to chicken out. They stick together like the proverbial 'band of brothers'.
They love that
rodgerramjet said:
I'd be unsure of this train of thought, as they'd all end up riotously pissed and carrying out a mock beach assault on some wheelie bins. Naked. Shouting "daggadaggadagaaa" as the pretend noise from their guns!
Highly amusing to watch, if a little bewildering and just a bit wrong!
I was on a parachuting course with a load of marines and some of them were cacking it to jump. Their sense of teamwork is outstanding though, so in the end all of them made at least a couple of jumps as their buddys wouldn't allow them to chicken out. They stick together like the proverbial 'band of brothers'.
It is funny you mention that. During a dining in night they came up with the idea of jousting. Yawn. Been wheelie bin jousting in the mess many times. Highly amusing to watch, if a little bewildering and just a bit wrong!
I was on a parachuting course with a load of marines and some of them were cacking it to jump. Their sense of teamwork is outstanding though, so in the end all of them made at least a couple of jumps as their buddys wouldn't allow them to chicken out. They stick together like the proverbial 'band of brothers'.
Oh no...outside they managed to procure two massive dumpsters. Picture a 1930's pirate movie except more realistic.
My eyes were like saucers the entire visit. 
XJSJohn said:
I have a mate who is ex SBS who demobbed in the late 70's.
He never tells stories about his service but every now and again if some arse end of nowhere country is on the news for some sort of thing he occasionally comes out with comments like "I remember when we didn't go there to sort the last lot out in nineteen sixty something ....
SBS get my vote for what it seems is descretely kicking arse for many decades!!
He never tells stories about his service but every now and again if some arse end of nowhere country is on the news for some sort of thing he occasionally comes out with comments like "I remember when we didn't go there to sort the last lot out in nineteen sixty something ....
SBS get my vote for what it seems is descretely kicking arse for many decades!!
Isn't the standard line.
What if the SAS can't do it?.
Just send in the SBS.
How about if we throw into the mix Royal Navy Fleet Diving Unit 1, who specialise in Maritime Counter Terrorism, they come under the same directorate of UK Special Forces but where as the SBS are a Royal Marines unit, the SAS an Army unit, FDU1 are drawn by selection from the best of the Royal Navy's Divers but keep a profile much lower than either of the other two.
Surely if we are comparing with US Navy SEALS we should add these into the mix.
Surely if we are comparing with US Navy SEALS we should add these into the mix.
hesnotthemessiah said:
I would like nominate the French Foreign Legion. I think they could take the Pepsi Challenge with anyone, especially in Jungle Warfare. They are some pretty tough hombres.
I once saw a programme on them in the jungles in South America once. They had this crazy type of assault course in the jungle with all natural obstacles. They invited the Navy Seals to have a go (as part of their training) and they couldn't do it. The FFL did it easily. The Seals were bragging about 'kicking the Frenchies as*es' but instead had their own as*es kicked. Just one example I know but......
I also remember a programme about the FFL. One thing really sticks in my mind. Asfter a day on the range one of them left his glasses there. Needing them for the next day, he ran there and back. The distance was more then 26 miles- a marathon!I once saw a programme on them in the jungles in South America once. They had this crazy type of assault course in the jungle with all natural obstacles. They invited the Navy Seals to have a go (as part of their training) and they couldn't do it. The FFL did it easily. The Seals were bragging about 'kicking the Frenchies as*es' but instead had their own as*es kicked. Just one example I know but......
RedLeicester said:
Given the mess of Nord-Ost, Budyonnovsk and Beslan, amongst others, I'd say they have a less than stellar reputation, but then again like all things Russian, meddling from the top down may have more to do with it than the SF themselves.
The Afghan War turned them from a relatively small SF unit into a better trained army unit much like their parachute regiment.I guess the similarity with how they are set up now is that of the Foregin Legion, they are considered SF by the French but only a small proportion are close to being elite
RobDickinson said:
Zaxxon said:
The SBS are Swimmer Canoeists, they are recruited from within the Royal Marines so most SBS are former Royal Marine Commandos. The training is incredibly hard and the failure rate is very high, even though the guys that go through training are already at an amazing level of fitness/motivation and skill level.
Thought most SAS are recruited from the Paras, hardly a bunch of wallflowers... ).Same as the SBS can be made up from all branches of the Royal Marines. So a Royal Marine chef\driver\clerk also has the opportunity to join the SBS, and as far as I know it has happened.
Can't garauntee it though because although I spent 7 years in the Corp, I don't have hundereds of best friends who are or were special forces, perhaps 'special forces' types only feel it is safe to admit their past to civillians......
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Zaxxon said:
RobDickinson said:
Zaxxon said:
The SBS are Swimmer Canoeists, they are recruited from within the Royal Marines so most SBS are former Royal Marine Commandos. The training is incredibly hard and the failure rate is very high, even though the guys that go through training are already at an amazing level of fitness/motivation and skill level.
Thought most SAS are recruited from the Paras, hardly a bunch of wallflowers... ).Same as the SBS can be made up from all branches of the Royal Marines. So a Royal Marine chef\driver\clerk also has the opportunity to join the SBS, and as far as I know it has happened.
Can't garauntee it though because although I spent 7 years in the Corp, I don't have hundereds of best friends who are or were special forces, perhaps 'special forces' types only feel it is safe to admit their past to civillians......
. Do you miss being in the forces?
dmulally said:
. Worked with plenty of SAS and although they have a history of being tough as nails, they are for the most part smart. Physical conditioning can be worked on.
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