On £25k but 'poor'?! Misery thread...

On £25k but 'poor'?! Misery thread...

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Pulse

10,922 posts

219 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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Dougan1 said:
Pulse said:
Nope, our first house was just shy of £150k, but we needed to furnish it as well, so saved up £20k.
How much did you typically pay off per month?
We didn't approach it that way, and in fact for the first few years, we did nothing at all with it. After about 3 years, we realised we could save a lot of money by paying it off, so started putting as much as possible in whilst still in our fixed rate. Then when the end of the 5 years came, we put in everything we had (at the time, £44k). Since then, we've knocked chunks off it as and when we could be bothered to go to the bank - usually at least £2000, otherwise it's not worth the hassle.

okgo

38,063 posts

199 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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DukeDickson said:
Mr Big Stuff.....
Not at all. As someone else said owning a home isn't a right, improving your situation if easier than waiting for the market to change I would imagine.

NightDriver

1,080 posts

227 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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Pulse said:
We didn't approach it that way, and in fact for the first few years, we did nothing at all with it. After about 3 years, we realised we could save a lot of money by paying it off, so started putting as much as possible in whilst still in our fixed rate. Then when the end of the 5 years came, we put in everything we had (at the time, £44k). Since then, we've knocked chunks off it as and when we could be bothered to go to the bank - usually at least £2000, otherwise it's not worth the hassle.
To pay off £130k in 6 years is just over 20k a year (ignoring interest). To take home £20k a year a single person needs a salary of £25k, so to save £20k a year I suggest your wages were significantly higher than the joint income of £28k you stated earlier in this thread?

Pulse

10,922 posts

219 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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NightDriver said:
To pay off £130k in 6 years is just over 20k a year (ignoring interest). To take home £20k a year a single person needs a salary of £25k, so to save £20k a year I suggest your wages were significantly higher than the joint income of £28k you stated earlier in this thread?
I did say our wages have gone up. They've gone up a fair amount I'd say, but nothing spectacular. Up until 6 months ago, I was still on £30k.

NightDriver

1,080 posts

227 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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Pulse said:
I did say our wages have gone up. They've gone up a fair amount I'd say, but nothing spectacular. Up until 6 months ago, I was still on £30k.
My point is just that whilst your example is great as inspiration for people, for someone actually on £25k household income, just 'making sacrifices' on it's own will not get them in a house with their mortgage paid off in under 10 years....

Dougan1

85 posts

124 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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NightDriver said:
My point is just that whilst your example is great as inspiration for people, for someone actually on £25k household income, just 'making sacrifices' on it's own will not get them in a house with their mortgage paid off in under 10 years....
Without being rude, that is pretty obvious.

MajorProblem

4,700 posts

165 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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Based on where I live,

2 bed semi - 80k

Deposit - 20k

Mortgage - 60k at £250 a month based on current deals and interest rates.

Earnings - take home £1600 a month at £25k per annum

With the mortgage at £250 there's no way you need more that £1k a month to live, so if you over paid by £260 a a month you'd pay it off in ten years. This also leaves you with £340 for rainy days, home improvement etc.


Dougan1

85 posts

124 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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MajorProblem said:
Based on where I live,

2 bed semi - 80k

Deposit - 20k

Mortgage - 60k at £250 a month based on current deals and interest rates.

Earnings - take home £1600 a month at £25k per annum

With the mortgage at £250 there's no way you need more that £1k a month to live, so if you over paid by £260 a a month you'd pay it off in ten years. This also leaves you with £340 for rainy days, home improvement etc.
Wow, uber cheap!

okgo

38,063 posts

199 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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Which probably means its unpleasant, and there are very few decent jobs, everything is cheap for a reason.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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okgo said:
Which probably means its unpleasant, and there are very few decent jobs, everything is cheap for a reason.
ever heard of the motorway?

or a train?

okgo

38,063 posts

199 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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SystemParanoia said:
ever heard of the motorway?

or a train?
Yes this magical property being spoken of is probably next to a motorway and a railway line. Noise = cheap.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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okgo said:
SystemParanoia said:
ever heard of the motorway?

or a train?
Yes this magical property being spoken of is probably next to a motorway and a railway line. Noise = cheap.
someone has to live there..

MajorProblem

4,700 posts

165 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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No st holes just have to look north.

Try Lincolnshire or South Yorkshire plenty of good houses for well under £100k and if your only earning £25k you won't need a mega important super job to earn that.

Pulse

10,922 posts

219 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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NightDriver said:
My point is just that whilst your example is great as inspiration for people, for someone actually on £25k household income, just 'making sacrifices' on it's own will not get them in a house with their mortgage paid off in under 10 years....
Oh, I agree! I wasn't trying to make that point though - just that what I've 'achieved' could easily be rolled out on a smaller scale for those on less wages.

Like I said, I was only on £30k up until recently, so it's not like I've been on high wages for a long time... I'm not even on high wages now.

bogie

16,387 posts

273 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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I bought my first house for £35k in the early 90s...around here now you can still earn a salary and buy a house/flat for £60k upwards in a nice town...millions of people live this way ...not all the country lives in the expensive parts wink

sure, the job opportunities might be less than living in a city of millions, but isnt that the same in all countries....you dont generally walk out of school and buy a £200k posh apartment in the city for your first job......

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Saturday 8th February 2014
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okgo said:
Yes this magical property being spoken of is probably next to a motorway and a railway line. Noise = cheap.
Where I live (Central Scotland) it's very easy to get a decent house in a decent area for well under £100k and be half an hour or so from any job you like smile

Dougan1

85 posts

124 months

Sunday 9th February 2014
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BoRED S2upid

19,711 posts

241 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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okgo said:
Yes this magical property being spoken of is probably next to a motorway and a railway line. Noise = cheap.
Ever heard of such places like Liverpool or Manchester ? There are big cities even further north like Leeds they all have jobs plenty of well paid ones and magical property a plenty!

okgo

38,063 posts

199 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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BoRED S2upid said:
Ever heard of such places like Liverpool or Manchester ? There are big cities even further north like Leeds they all have jobs plenty of well paid ones and magical property a plenty!
What, you can live in a nice part of Liverpool (oxymorons aside) for under £100k?

What is a good job paying in those cities? £50-60k I guess?

jamoor

14,506 posts

216 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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C.A.R. said:
It's belittling, demoralising and depressing moving back in with mummy and daddy, but the alternative is surely worse - in my opinion only.
People fail to realise that humans are stronger when they stick together.