Living abroad, bringing money back to UK - tax implication

Living abroad, bringing money back to UK - tax implication

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GT03ROB

13,280 posts

222 months

Tuesday 14th February 2017
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Eric Mc said:
Luckilly for you, you will probably have re-established your UK residence by tax year 2017/18 and you will be able to resolve your tax liabilities (if any) using the Self Assessment system.

Unfortunately, Self Assessment is being abolished on 6 April 2018 and for tax year 2018/19 on your situation would have to be resolved using the new Making Tax Digital system which I am sure will be far less straightforward in circumstances like yours.
Not necessarily Eric, coming back is simple. Prior to returning as far as HMRC is concerned you don't exist, there was no income, you owe them nothing, they owe you nothing. Leaving may be more difficult I'd concede!

Eric Mc

122,106 posts

266 months

Tuesday 14th February 2017
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The simple answer is we don't know yet. All taxpayers i.e. 45 million people, will be given a new Digital Tax Account - irrespective as to whether they have been submitting or would have been required to submit Self Assessment tax returns.

When a person returns to the UK they will more than likely need to contact HMRC fairly quickly so that their Digital Tax Account is set up (or re-instated if they are former UK taxpayers who have been out of the country for a number of years).

HMRC are being very coy about how liable to fines and penalties ordinary taxpayers will be if they don't monitor and update their Digital Tax Account in a timely fashion.

GT03ROB

13,280 posts

222 months

Tuesday 14th February 2017
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Eric Mc said:
The simple answer is we don't know yet. All taxpayers i.e. 45 million people, will be given a new Digital Tax Account - irrespective as to whether they have been submitting or would have been required to submit Self Assessment tax returns.

When a person returns to the UK they will more than likely need to contact HMRC fairly quickly so that their Digital Tax Account is set up (or re-instated if they are former UK taxpayers who have been out of the country for a number of years).

HMRC are being very coy about how liable to fines and penalties ordinary taxpayers will be if they don't monitor and update their Digital Tax Account in a timely fashion.
It's going to be a total clusterfk isn't it!! What are they thinking.

Eric Mc

122,106 posts

266 months

Tuesday 14th February 2017
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I am dreading the whole thing.

Mezger

371 posts

107 months

Wednesday 15th February 2017
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Thanks all, found a useful online questionnaire on HMRC website - good news, with split year no tax liability!

Maxter

2 posts

84 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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Mezger said:
Holy Thread Resurrection, we may, potentially, be doing the opposite, i.e. returning to Blighty after 4.5 years away.

I will (of course) seek proper tax advice, but directionally, does anyone know if your foreign earnings are liable for UK tax if you come back midway through the UK tax year?

For example, if we were to return in October this year, are we liable to pay any UK tax on money earned abroad (wages and investments) between April 6th 2017 and when we return in October 2017?
I am in exactly the same situation - other responses on here seem to suggest that this shouldn't be an issue, which is great news.

Does anyone know if end of service gratuity and transferring lump sum (of wages saved while in Dubai) to U.K. bank account prior to returning as a resident would also be tax free or are there different rules for larger deposits?

GT03ROB

13,280 posts

222 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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Maxter said:
Does anyone know if end of service gratuity and transferring lump sum (of wages saved while in Dubai) to U.K. bank account prior to returning as a resident would also be tax free or are there different rules for larger deposits?
Your earnings as a non-resident which would cover savings & gratuity remain free from HMRC clutches.

Maxter

2 posts

84 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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GT03ROB said:
Your earnings as a non-resident which would cover savings & gratuity remain free from HMRC clutches.
Great! Thanks. Any idea why other colleagues returning to the UK this summer were so keen to be paid gratuity before end of March? Is it just that this makes the whole thing simpler than requesting split year treatment (which I presume I will have to do)?

GT03ROB

13,280 posts

222 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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Maxter said:
GT03ROB said:
Your earnings as a non-resident which would cover savings & gratuity remain free from HMRC clutches.
Great! Thanks. Any idea why other colleagues returning to the UK this summer were so keen to be paid gratuity before end of March? Is it just that this makes the whole thing simpler than requesting split year treatment (which I presume I will have to do)?
No idea. It shouldn't make any difference. Notifying HMRC of split year is no big deal, it's only a couple of boxes on your 17/18 return. I'm likely to reestablish residency in June or July I get an indemnity paid out & a slew of other end of assignment allowances. None of these will be going near HMRC!

Mezger

371 posts

107 months

Thursday 4th May 2017
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GT03ROB said:
Your earnings as a non-resident which would cover savings & gratuity remain free from HMRC clutches.
That's good to know, in effect, once you return and establish residency you can use that years isa allowance also.
We've decided to stay out of the UK for a while longer, let all the Brexit shenanigans settle down!

GT03ROB

13,280 posts

222 months

Thursday 4th May 2017
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Mezger said:
That's good to know, in effect, once you return and establish residency you can use that years isa allowance also.
We've decided to stay out of the UK for a while longer, let all the Brexit shenanigans settle down!
....and your full years personal allowance!

It's always good to have a choice to come back.