Investing in apartments builds - what's the scam?

Investing in apartments builds - what's the scam?

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worsy

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5,803 posts

175 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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http://www.knightknox.com/l/chronicle-house/?sourc...


• Circa 8.52% assured NET rental returns for 2 years
• Boutique studio apartments
• Great on-site facilites - private gymnasium, laundry room and bicycle storage • Walking distance to major universities
• Built and managed by experienced developer
• Great central location in the heart of Chester




With an ever-growing student population, the historic city of Chester is the perfect location for our next student accommodation development Chronicle House.
A building formerly owned by The Mirror Group (TMG), the 62-unit development is within walking distance of local shops, restaurants and bars, and is just a 6 minute drive from the University of Chester, making it an ideal student location.
Each self-contained studio apartment is fully furnished to the highest of standards. Students will also have access to a range of communal facilities including a fully-equipped gymnasium, laundry, bike storage and entertainment lounge.





menousername

2,108 posts

142 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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"Circa 8.52% assured"

how can a figure be both circa and assured?

is there really sufficient return / growth where students are involved? how much can they really afford?

worsy

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5,803 posts

175 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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menousername said:
"Circa 8.52% assured"

how can a figure be both circa and assured?

is there really sufficient return / growth where students are involved? how much can they really afford?
Yes odd isn't it. And assured for 2 years so maybe subsidised, then you are left to market forces.

SamR380

725 posts

120 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Student flats charge exactly what students can afford, ie, their entire annual loan after tuition fees have been removed.

Radio 4's money box covered group property investment a couple of weeks ago, which this kind of sounds like.

The written feature is here...

and the radio programme here.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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menousername said:
"Circa 8.52% assured"

how can a figure be both circa and assured?

is there really sufficient return / growth where students are involved? how much can they really afford?
Personally, I wouldn't read any further than that first line.

menousername

2,108 posts

142 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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SamR380 said:
Student flats charge exactly what students can afford, ie, their entire annual loan after tuition fees have been removed.

Radio 4's money box covered group property investment a couple of weeks ago, which this kind of sounds like.

The written feature is here...

and the radio programme here.
ahah... there's the catch then



marky1

1,046 posts

196 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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The "scam" is the assured yield is only as good as the company that stands behind it, simple as that really. It's not exactly being guaranteed by a AAA rated company is it!

Eric Mc

121,958 posts

265 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Unless somebody has use of a time machine and can see into the future, no investment can ever produce an "assured" return.

Sir Bagalot

6,476 posts

181 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Inkyfingers said:
Personally, I wouldn't read any further than that first line.
Me neither but I'm surprised how many developers use it so obviously it works.

Also would love to know resale valueyes

BoRED S2upid

19,686 posts

240 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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There are loads if these deals about I've seen them in Liverpool. They are student apartments so often don't have bathrooms it's just a box! And what happens after the 2 years? Could be very difficult to ever sell it you couldn't let it to normal tenants.

Also 6 min drive from Central Chester. Where are they? Chester isn't big in 6 minutes you could drive out of the city passing hundreds of student lets on the way.

Sid's Dad

576 posts

141 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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No scam - but dangerous nonetheless.

Do you understand the student let market? Do you know Chester well? Do you understand the dynamics of the property market as an investor rather than just as a homeowner?

Unless you can answer 'Yes' to all three, walk away. The number of people who sink their life savings into something they don't really understand and can't accurately assess is staggering. Making money from property makes fools of many professionals, let alone amateurs with nowt but a bit of cash and a lot of greed on their side.....

iphonedyou

9,246 posts

157 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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menousername said:
"Circa 8.52% assured"

how can a figure be both circa and assured?

is there really sufficient return / growth where students are involved? how much can they really afford?
I shan't comment on the veracity of the claim, but the phrasing does make sense. It means the return will be an assured return, but they're not exactly certain of what that'll be at the minute. That's how I read it anyway.

GrizzlyBear

1,072 posts

135 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Is this an advert?

marsred

1,042 posts

225 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Some companies often attempt to launch similar projects as a regulated fund (unit trust or OEIC) but they can't because of all that damned regulation that gets in the way... make of that what you will. smile

z4RRSchris99

11,274 posts

179 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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select do a similar thing..

35% over 5 years..

Student property is a great asset class in good locations, i just worry about the resale market on these units.

http://www.selectproperty.com/ppc/student-property...


worsy

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5,803 posts

175 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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GrizzlyBear said:
Is this an advert?
It's a copy and paste from the advert if that's what you think.

worsy

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5,803 posts

175 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Sid's Dad said:
No scam - but dangerous nonetheless.

Do you understand the student let market? Do you know Chester well? Do you understand the dynamics of the property market as an investor rather than just as a homeowner?

Unless you can answer 'Yes' to all three, walk away. The number of people who sink their life savings into something they don't really understand and can't accurately assess is staggering. Making money from property makes fools of many professionals, let alone amateurs with nowt but a bit of cash and a lot of greed on their side.....
I know Chester. I got sent an email and was intrigued as to why anyone would buy one. Seen plenty of similar stuff in the city mainly hotel related but as it seems to good to be true (and in my mind something to swerve) I wondered what the catch was.

It appears to be 2 years of perhaps subsided rent before you lose your money biggrin