HMRC Self Assessment Penalty 3 Years Late

[silentbrown]

see here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...

HMRC said:

Reasonable excuse examples
What we may accept as a reasonable excuse
...
• You did not receive the tax return or letter telling you to complete a tax return – we usually know if you did not because it is sent back undelivered.
...

[tleefox]

silentbrown said:

see here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...

HMRC said:

Reasonable excuse examples
What we may accept as a reasonable excuse
...
• You did not receive the tax return or letter telling you to complete a tax return – we usually know if you did not because it is sent back undelivered.
...

Woman I spoke to said they knew I had not received the correspondence as they had been sent back - if I have underpaid tax I have no problem paying it back - what grates me is that they can allow you to accumulate £2k worth of fines and just sit there and say "tough st."

[griffin dai]

Both my mother & I had a letter today from HMRC but I'm away another week so can't have a proper read of it yet.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Bit different to yours but I can't understand how they've sent it to my mothers address instead of mine, I left home 10 years ago and this is for tax year ending 2012, plus the phone number they've provided isn't the usual HMRC line and it has an engaged tone.

I was starting to think it's a scam but now I'm not so sure.

[silentbrown]

tleefox said:

what grates me is that they can allow you to accumulate £2k worth of fines and just sit there and say "tough st."

I think the "notes" I linked to say that not receiving the request to complete a return may well be a "reasonable excuse" to appeal against the penalty. It's a pain you have to go through that process, b ut...

[tleefox]

silentbrown said:

I think the "notes" I linked to say that not receiving the request to complete a return may well be a "reasonable excuse" to appeal against the penalty. It's a pain you have to go through that process, b ut...

I had mis-read your quotes - having re-read them that does appear to be the case.

I've now had a notice through for the £1500 of fees - hopefully it's an automatic thing and they're trying their luck! I've now done the "outstanding" self assessment and it actually turns out they owe me £500. Few phone calls next week I think!