Whoa! ISA plummets

Whoa! ISA plummets

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sideways sid

1,371 posts

215 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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In the last hour there was the opportunity to buy shares that you wanted to buy last week, for 10% less!

Soov535

35,829 posts

271 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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I've just sold my entire holding of Funds in my SIPP.

I'm going to sit on cash for a while.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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The markets go up more than they go down. A 10 year time frame usually rides out most corrections. I always use the DJIA to illustrate this. 6 negative years since 1990 (excluding this year).


Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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La Liga said:
The markets go up more than they go down. A 10 year time frame usually rides out most corrections. I always use the DJIA to illustrate this. 6 negative years since 1990 (excluding this year).

Why don't you nikkei 225 as an illustration? wink


ringram

14,700 posts

248 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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Soov535 said:
I've just sold my entire holding of Funds in my SIPP.

I'm going to sit on cash for a while.
Madness

The panic merchants in this thread are exactly the types of sellers I like smile

immigrant

397 posts

195 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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Am massively conflicted.

Will need to withdraw my Nutmeg and other ISAs in the next month or two for a house deposit and watching hundreds drop off each day is hurting.

I'm thinking liquidating and letting it sit in my current account will be sensible right now as it likely won't recover in time.

croyde

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22,918 posts

230 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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I'm useless at all this. I sold my oil stocks just before the Gulf War. They then went up 500%

One of my ISAs is with Woodford. Will he be doing clever stuff or did his involvement stop after initially investing my money.

Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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immigrant said:
Am massively conflicted.

Will need to withdraw my Nutmeg and other ISAs in the next month or two for a house deposit and watching hundreds drop off each day is hurting.

I'm thinking liquidating and letting it sit in my current account will be sensible right now as it likely won't recover in time.
If there's a specific amount of cash you will need at a relatively fixed date in the near future I'd be tempted to take that amount out of the market.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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Fittster said:
La Liga said:
The markets go up more than they go down. A 10 year time frame usually rides out most corrections. I always use the DJIA to illustrate this. 6 negative years since 1990 (excluding this year).

Why don't you nikkei 225 as an illustration? wink
You are right, 30 companies in the US is certainly not representative of the wider world. I just use the DJIA as it goes back so far to make the point about going up more than down.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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ringram said:
The panic merchants in this thread are exactly the types of sellers I like smile
+1

That's why shrewd investors always keep a bit of cash in hand to buy on opportunities.

richyd

285 posts

227 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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In the 1930's it was Pork Belly futures, now it's Aircooled Pork futures - Thats where I'm invested, oh and GT Pork futures.

So far these 2 have produced a FAR better return than my equity investments in cash terms, even though I have far more cash at stake in equities.

I seriously am thinking that the whole "invest in equities for the long term" thing is old hat today. I lost a shed-load when I sold my ISA's in 2008 to cash out. My fund manager took 10 days to transact, which cost me £20k alone in the falling market!!! I have lost all my equity gains of the last 18 months in the last week!!

I'm hoping when the senior traders get back from their hols next week normal business will resume and we will see a bounce. China is still 50% up on the year after all, and UK growth forecast has just been increased too, so it ain't all bad...(he hopes)

AlexHat

1,327 posts

119 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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I took my money out of the ISA S&S ring in early April...methinks in hindsight that was a good idea. (it wasn't at all due to buying a house, no siree!)

Broccers

3,236 posts

253 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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If you look at Apple as an example of how the usa reacted was open 92 and now at 107.56 actually up !!

Selling is the worst thing to do - just don't look for 6 months and it will all be fine in the end.

trickywoo

11,803 posts

230 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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Broccers said:
Selling is the worst thing to do - just don't look for 6 months and it will all be fine in the end.
Its not a loss until you sell.

I do managed funds now but when I used to pick companies I bought one at £7 a share. It went down to under £0.20 at one point and its now something like £3.50. I'm still not doing well with it hehe but I'm a lot better off than I would have been selling it. Wish I'd gone in at £0.20.

croyde

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22,918 posts

230 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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I have a few similar to those.

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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Finding the bottom is the trick. The S&P500 has trimmed its losses a bit this afternoon (only down 1.7% or so now) so if China decides find some sort of equilibrium in early trading tomorrow I think I might "call my broker" before I go to bed.

Mr Trophy

6,808 posts

203 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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Stay in there folks.

bad company

18,598 posts

266 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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boyse7en said:
I've been meaning to switch my cash ISA into S&S, but due to being a lazy arse and not really understanding how to do it I haven't got round to it yet.

Is now a good time to get it shifted?

bad company

18,598 posts

266 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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boyse7en said:
I've been meaning to switch my cash ISA into S&S, but due to being a lazy arse and not really understanding how to do it I haven't got round to it yet.

Is now a good time to get it shifted?
I would say yes BUT drip feed £'s rather making one big investment. Nobody knows if we are at the bottom.

GT03ROB

13,268 posts

221 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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bad company said:
I would say yes BUT drip feed £'s rather making one big investment. Nobody knows if we are at the bottom.
Correct....but I'd wager good money we are not....