Paying daughters Uni fees

Paying daughters Uni fees

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PugwasHDJ80

7,529 posts

221 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2015
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sideways sid said:
PugwasHDJ80 said:
IT does mean that my effective tax rate for the five grand bonus I got this year was over 60% eek
How much would the bonus have been without the university education?

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Good point, but it would have been 10% better in my parents generation

(actually had i gone to Uni one year earlier, but i'l try not to be completely bitter and twisted about it biggrin )

lord summerisle

8,138 posts

225 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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21TonyK said:
Similar debate in our house at the moment. Except mines looking at 7 years weeping
Architecture course?

If so, its not 7 years in uni. its 3 to 4 years uni (depending on if its a Hons course) to get your RIBA part 1 a year in work at a architectural firm. 1 or 2 year BA or MA to gain RIBA part 2 and a further year working in an architectural firm while preparing for the Part 3 exam.

iphonedyou

9,253 posts

157 months

Thursday 24th September 2015
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lord summerisle said:
Architecture course?

If so, its not 7 years in uni. its 3 to 4 years uni (depending on if its a Hons course) to get your RIBA part 1 a year in work at a architectural firm. 1 or 2 year BA or MA to gain RIBA part 2 and a further year working in an architectural firm while preparing for the Part 3 exam.
I don't know about architecture but I had to pay half fees during my year in industry (QS).

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lord summerisle

8,138 posts

225 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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iphonedyou said:
I don't know about architecture but I had to pay half fees during my year in industry (QS).

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I'll ask the lad whoes on his year out in our team.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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Another issue is the tax aspect - if you gift the £45k you'll have to formally declare it on whatever years self assessment return and she will have to complete a self assessment form to state the fact she has received this income but it is tax free (provided you live for 7 years from the date of the otherwise she will be paying tax on it)




Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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Welshbeef said:
Another issue is the tax aspect - if you gift the £45k you'll have to formally declare it on whatever years self assessment return and she will have to complete a self assessment form to state the fact she has received this income but it is tax free (provided you live for 7 years from the date of the otherwise she will be paying tax on it)
??

A gift is a gift, it's not income of the recipient and doesn't need to be declared on the recipient's tax return.

Don't forget there's a tax free gift allowance of £3,000 p.a. and, if used, only the excess above £3,000 p.a. could ever be subject to IHT if you fail to survive 7 years (and the tax reduces on a sliding scale for death after year 3).

If the fees are paid out of your income, as opposed to savings, they will be outside the scope of IHT in any event.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Ozzie Osmond said:
??

A gift is a gift, it's not income of the recipient and doesn't need to be declared on the recipient's tax return.

Don't forget there's a tax free gift allowance of £3,000 p.a. and, if used, only the excess above £3,000 p.a. could ever be subject to IHT if you fail to survive 7 years (and the tax reduces on a sliding scale for death after year 3).

If the fees are paid out of your income, as opposed to savings, they will be outside the scope of IHT in any event.
You have to declare it on the self assessment / she certainly will as its >£3k per year allowed to be given tax free.



However you could give £3k per year as a lump sum and then drop in the £6k which would mean it's below the income tax threshold and also below National insurance threshold.

Far better to do it this way over one lump value - also you don't need to do it now it could be once she has finished

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Welshbeef said:
You have to declare it on the self assessment
Which box does that go in?

corporalsparrow

403 posts

180 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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I made our daughter take out a student loan. It won't do her any harm at all to live in the REAL world.

And on the quiet I've matched the fees in an ISA for her.

If for some reason she really can't take the pressure of the debt any longer she'll have a nice surprise to learn that can pay it off, and might even have something left over.

Bt to be honest, I can't quite see what the fuss is about (other than the principle of paying for an education). My first mortgage cost me 12%. So compared to that student loan repayment terms are incredibly benign. I wish there was a car loan like that!


Edited by corporalsparrow on Monday 28th September 14:39

TwigtheWonderkid

43,386 posts

150 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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corporalsparrow said:
I made our daughter take out a student loan. It won't do her any harm at all to live in the rap world.
You won't say that when she's covered in gold chains and calling you a motherfker ho bh.

corporalsparrow

403 posts

180 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Oops…corrected that typo. Thanks for pointing it out!

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Welshbeef said:
You have to declare it on the self assessment
Which box does that go in?
I still can't find any necessity to declare gifts (which are not related to employment).

madmover

1,725 posts

184 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Why not let her get a student loan to cover the fees, put the 45k into a house for her? Just another option...

amusingduck

9,397 posts

136 months

Tuesday 29th September 2015
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
corporalsparrow said:
I made our daughter take out a student loan. It won't do her any harm at all to live in the rap world.
You won't say that when she's covered in gold chains and calling you a motherfker ho bh.
rofl