An odd question on VAT invoicing

An odd question on VAT invoicing

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blindswelledrat

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25,257 posts

232 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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For reasons that I don't quite understand, a developer client of mine who is not VAT registered, wants me to invoice him the gross amount but as a net figure.
So for example if my invoice would naturally read £10k plus £2k VAT totals £12k, he wants me to send him a £12k invoice with no element of VAT in it.
When pushed as to why he isn't quite sure but something to do with him charging the invoice on to someone else but that he cannot include VAT.

Anyway, Im sure I know the answer to this but is it very wrong for me to do that, even if you assume I record it my end inclusive of VAT and pay the appropriate VAT element of it?

worsy

5,804 posts

175 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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blindswelledrat said:
For reasons that I don't quite understand, a developer client of mine who is not VAT registered, wants me to invoice him the gross amount but as a net figure.
So for example if my invoice would naturally read £10k plus £2k VAT totals £12k, he wants me to send him a £12k invoice with no element of VAT in it.
When pushed as to why he isn't quite sure but something to do with him charging the invoice on to someone else but that he cannot include VAT.

Anyway, Im sure I know the answer to this but is it very wrong for me to do that, even if you assume I record it my end inclusive of VAT and pay the appropriate VAT element of it?
If you are VAT registered then you must add VAT. As he is not registered he cannot claim the input value and cannot charge his client VAT. It sounds like he is trying to artificially inflate the VAT to cover the loss he will have to bear highlighted in bold.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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Sounds as though your developer friend is simply involving you in ripping off his client.

Best not get involved IMO.

Countdown

39,885 posts

196 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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If your invoice is for over £250 then you have to show VAT separately on the invoice.

I think your client wants to make sure HIS client is happy to cover the cost of the VAT you are charging him, rather than HIS client expecting HIM to recover your VAT from HMRC.