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Simpo Two

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85,417 posts

265 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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Woke up at 4.20am to learn of the swing to Leave and then the Welsh result came in.

So I called it wrong. Oh well!

There's something I'm not clear on. Currently the shares I bought last week are sitting at their closing prices from yeterday. If I 'sell' now, will they actually be sold at those prices or will they wait in a queue for an hour by which time it will be too late? (I have the choice of Market, Limit or Stop loss).

Gr44

147 posts

152 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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You aren't the only one, FTSE is likely to be a bloodbath when it opens, esp the banking sector.

No expert but in answer to your question I think they should sell near instantly, what you won't know is the opening price, they might open 5% or more than they closed at.

Thats my assumption anyway... Would also like to know more though if anyone can advise before open!

Simpo Two

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265 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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Thanks, that seem to clarify it. Nobody's going to bid to buy them at anything like the closing price.

I might try a limit of 5% below current value and see what happens. I wonder if the expert managers managing my other stuff, pension etc will exhibit expertness?

Thanks for the explanation smile

PS Is the timing of the order relevant; ie is there a first come, first served approach or do the buyers just pick the best ones at 8am?

ralphrj

3,523 posts

191 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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FTSE is expected to open 19% down so a 5% drop seems optimistic.

Simpo Two

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Friday 24th June 2016
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coyft said:
This gives a much better explanation. http://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/stop-limitorde...
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oldaudi

1,315 posts

158 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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coyft said:
This gives a much better explanation. http://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/stop-limitorde...

Good luck! I think you'll be lucky if there is only a 5% drop!
At what point would they suspend the market do you think?

Simpo Two

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Friday 24th June 2016
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Hmm, just ordered one sale as 'Stop Loss' and it showing as 'Sell Stop' and says:

'We will sell at the best market price available once your specified price has been reached. The price we sell at could be above or below the specified stop loss price.'

- which seems different...

HarryW

15,150 posts

269 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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Too late now, forget about it for a few weeks it will be no worse than today following the sheep and bleeding on the floor.

The fundamentals have not changed, it was a predictable scenario and if any fund managers lose other people's shirts then they need shooting.

Simpo Two

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Friday 24th June 2016
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coyft said:
Say your price is £50, the market opens at £52 you will sell for £52.

If the market opens below your stop, say £49 and the next price available is £49 they will sell for £49.
So much for a 'stop' then! Ah well I punted with one; I think Harry is right and I may as well go back to bed. I'd love to think that all the various fund managers who are responsible for my financial future saw it coming and had contingency plans but I'll bet £10 to a bucket of crap they didn't.

But as someone said, the economy will go on, and all that these 'market prices' really reflect is very clever high-up people and institutions making money. Many billions will be made later today, but not by Joe Investor.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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HarryW said:
The fundamentals have not changed,
I disagree. But I hope I'm wrong!

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,254 posts

235 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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Selling today must be the most risky option? When things go wrong the biggest hit is usually on day 1, followed by a slow recovery. (Mind you, we've never been here before....so who knows!?)

K12beano

20,854 posts

275 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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Sell?

Today?


Not unless it's the miracle share that's going to appreciate in value, Shirley?

Buying opportunities - all the way

jeff m2

2,060 posts

151 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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Why would you want to sell today?

The FTSE will be in the 5s and the spreads horrific.

I've no idea where the pound will settle, but all those multi nations will be declaring some super earnings later. (Currency gains)

A strategy for the brave might be to unload some of your US holdings which should show quite a decent profit in Sterling and re invest in UK.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,254 posts

235 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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Actually, 6% drop is messy, but not as bad as I was expecting

swatches

88 posts

155 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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Are all trading platforms being affected by the volumes?

AJ Bell are saying,

"Please note there is currently very limited electronic trading available on the London Stock Exchange and it is unlikely quotes will be returned for online dealing"

Telephone dealing is £30 versus £10 online, kerching!

Simpo Two

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85,417 posts

265 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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Computershare was slow an hour ago but working OK now; I've just cancelled my stop/loss order as it didn't happen.

Edited by Simpo Two on Friday 24th June 10:39

K12beano

20,854 posts

275 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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swatches said:
Are all trading platforms being affected by the volumes?
yes

HL said:
Apologies, market not HL issue, due to exceptional trading volumes, share dealing service busy but operating normally currently.

jshell

11,006 posts

205 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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See. Wasn't the carnage that was predicted. Though that may yet come as the details are worked out...

swatches

88 posts

155 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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OK took over an hour but my first online trade has gone through.

rfisher

5,024 posts

283 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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Buy low sell high.

HTH.