European Union - Ramifications
Discussion
blueg33 said:
Anyone remember when new cars were cheaper in mainland Europe than the uk but the makers wouldn't sell them to Btits who crossed the channel to buy. IIRC the EU forced makers to sell to Brits and that effectively saw car prices reduce.
The U.K. Is now a captive market again and I bet new car prices will rise.
but, but, but, red tape The U.K. Is now a captive market again and I bet new car prices will rise.
also i don't think some people realise that 'flexit' / EEA or what options as a way to preserve trade would also mean adhering to the 4 freedoms and things like the emissions standards etc etc
Was it not also a European ruling that manufacturers could not void the warranty if other than main dealers were used?
It would be difficult for them to back track even if the law changed but it will certainly bring into sharp focus the detail of the de-couple.
Whatever happens the coming months will not be uneventful as the understatement of the year
It would be difficult for them to back track even if the law changed but it will certainly bring into sharp focus the detail of the de-couple.
Whatever happens the coming months will not be uneventful as the understatement of the year
CS Garth said:
Was it not also a European ruling that manufacturers could not void the warranty if other than main dealers were used?
It would be difficult for them to back track even if the law changed but it will certainly bring into sharp focus the detail of the de-couple.
Whatever happens the coming months will not be uneventful as the understatement of the year
exactly , what is quite clear is that i suspect changes in legislation like this will be driven by who offers the biggest bung and this may well of course spur others to consider carefully the need to retain or develop production capacity in the UK ... It would be difficult for them to back track even if the law changed but it will certainly bring into sharp focus the detail of the de-couple.
Whatever happens the coming months will not be uneventful as the understatement of the year
Jockman said:
Sarnie said:
Jockman said:
Genuine reaction or profiteering?
good day for burying bad news?
All of the above perhaps? good day for burying bad news?
Profiteering won't work if they simply price themselves out of the reckoning and the business goes elsewhere.....the proof will be what other lenders do....
You're a pro, sarnie, so were you aware of these sort of deals changing whatever way the vote went?
You would get more financial insight from a compare the meerkat advert.KimJongHealthy said:
I always said that nobody over 60 should be allowed to vote. People don't get wiser with age, if anything they start pooping pants and forgetting to lock the house. And it's not their future they just completely f**d up.
What a tosser! I hope you die before you get old, to quote The Who.....
k you, you old ffangio said:
KimJongHealthy said:
I always said that nobody over 60 should be allowed to vote. People don't get wiser with age, if anything they start pooping pants and forgetting to lock the house. And it's not their future they just completely f**d up.
What a tosser! I hope you die before you get old, to quote The Who.....KimJongHealthy said:
I always said that nobody over 60 should be allowed to vote. People don't get wiser with age, if anything they start pooping pants and forgetting to lock the house. And it's not their future they just completely f**d up.
What a tosser! I hope you die before you get old, to quote The Who.....
Everyone sees through Sturgeon's BS.KimJongHealthy said:
I always said that nobody over 60 should be allowed to vote. People don't get wiser with age, if anything they start pooping pants and forgetting to lock the house. And it's not their future they just completely f**d up.
Looks like somebody didn't get the result they wanted. I'll tell you one thing - you'll know a hell of a lot more when you're 60 than you do now.Simpo Two said:
Looks like somebody didn't get the result they wanted. I'll tell you one thing - you'll know a hell of a lot more when you're 60 than you do now.
Say what you like about it, but the very obvious difference in attitudes, opinions, opportunities and outlook between generations is breeding a LOT of resent in this country. The young are becoming totally disenfranchised and disillusioned, and in the same way Brexit could be seen as a protest vote by the working class at some point the youth will rock the boat in their own way. You cant keep expecting them to pay more, work harder, and accept lower social mobility while also gold plating pensions, offering free bus passes and free winter fuel payments when the youth are paying high rents to live in houses owned by the same older generations they are working hard to finance, houses they have little hope of buying.
Condi said:
Say what you like about it, but the very obvious difference in attitudes, opinions, opportunities and outlook between generations is breeding a LOT of resent in this country. The young are becoming totally disenfranchised and disillusioned, and in the same way Brexit could be seen as a protest vote by the working class at some point the youth will rock the boat in their own way.
You cant keep expecting them to pay more, work harder, and accept lower social mobility while also gold plating pensions, offering free bus passes and free winter fuel payments when the youth are paying high rents to live in houses owned by the same older generations they are working hard to finance, houses they have little hope of buying.
You don't see the housing market cooling with a brexit vote? Two of my three stepdaughters are settled in lovely starter homes that cost £145k and £195k. One is a lovely semi and one a small detached. You cant keep expecting them to pay more, work harder, and accept lower social mobility while also gold plating pensions, offering free bus passes and free winter fuel payments when the youth are paying high rents to live in houses owned by the same older generations they are working hard to finance, houses they have little hope of buying.
I'm 48 and I don't have a final salary pension nor do millions of others in my age bracket.
I don't want a free bus pass nor a winter fuel allowance but I'm told I cannot opt out.
Condi said:
Say what you like about it, but the very obvious difference in attitudes, opinions, opportunities and outlook between generations is breeding a LOT of resent in this country. The young are becoming totally disenfranchised and disillusioned, and in the same way Brexit could be seen as a protest vote by the working class at some point the youth will rock the boat in their own way.
You cant keep expecting them to pay more, work harder, and accept lower social mobility while also gold plating pensions, offering free bus passes and free winter fuel payments when the youth are paying high rents to live in houses owned by the same older generations they are working hard to finance, houses they have little hope of buying.
This is a narrative that we - and particularly the young - are being encouraged to believe for political reasons. In truth you won't find gold plated pensions outside the very old and/or the public sector. Practically anyone under fifty today is faced with high property costs and poor pension prospects. Most of those people are far from young.You cant keep expecting them to pay more, work harder, and accept lower social mobility while also gold plating pensions, offering free bus passes and free winter fuel payments when the youth are paying high rents to live in houses owned by the same older generations they are working hard to finance, houses they have little hope of buying.
grumbledoak said:
Condi said:
Say what you like about it, but the very obvious difference in attitudes, opinions, opportunities and outlook between generations is breeding a LOT of resent in this country. The young are becoming totally disenfranchised and disillusioned, and in the same way Brexit could be seen as a protest vote by the working class at some point the youth will rock the boat in their own way.
You cant keep expecting them to pay more, work harder, and accept lower social mobility while also gold plating pensions, offering free bus passes and free winter fuel payments when the youth are paying high rents to live in houses owned by the same older generations they are working hard to finance, houses they have little hope of buying.
This is a narrative that we - and particularly the young - are being encouraged to believe for political reasons. In truth you won't find gold plated pensions outside the very old and/or the public sector. Practically anyone under fifty today is faced with high property costs and poor pension prospects. Most of those people are far from young.You cant keep expecting them to pay more, work harder, and accept lower social mobility while also gold plating pensions, offering free bus passes and free winter fuel payments when the youth are paying high rents to live in houses owned by the same older generations they are working hard to finance, houses they have little hope of buying.
Condi said:
Say what you like about it, but the very obvious difference in attitudes, opinions, opportunities and outlook between generations is breeding a LOT of resent in this country. The young are becoming totally disenfranchised and disillusioned, and in the same way Brexit could be seen as a protest vote by the working class at some point the youth will rock the boat in their own way.
You cant keep expecting them to pay more, work harder, and accept lower social mobility while also gold plating pensions, offering free bus passes and free winter fuel payments when the youth are paying high rents to live in houses owned by the same older generations they are working hard to finance, houses they have little hope of buying.
There's a whole generation of people now in their 20s who are useless, lazy moaners. Prefer to tell everyone what they deserve than get up, shut up and get on with it. Every generation has faced its own challenges and you learn as you go through life that nothing really changes, people are born, work, get old then die. No one is entitled to anything, if you want something, get off your arse and work for it.You cant keep expecting them to pay more, work harder, and accept lower social mobility while also gold plating pensions, offering free bus passes and free winter fuel payments when the youth are paying high rents to live in houses owned by the same older generations they are working hard to finance, houses they have little hope of buying.
Condi said:
Say what you like about it, but the very obvious difference in attitudes, opinions, opportunities and outlook between generations is breeding a LOT of resent in this country. The young are becoming totally disenfranchised and disillusioned, and in the same way Brexit could be seen as a protest vote by the working class at some point the youth will rock the boat in their own way.
You cant keep expecting them to pay more, work harder, and accept lower social mobility while also gold plating pensions, offering free bus passes and free winter fuel payments when the youth are paying high rents to live in houses owned by the same older generations they are working hard to finance, houses they have little hope of buying.
The young have been saying stuff like this since I were a lad.You cant keep expecting them to pay more, work harder, and accept lower social mobility while also gold plating pensions, offering free bus passes and free winter fuel payments when the youth are paying high rents to live in houses owned by the same older generations they are working hard to finance, houses they have little hope of buying.
I wonder whether you actually believe that or are just trolling. Every generation has its useless lazy moaners, the current ones usually being offspring of the previous ones. As far as I'm aware this is the first generation with huge amounts of super successful 20 somethings, leading the world in technology etc. It's also the generation that's been left in the biggest mess by the baby boomers, unaffordable housing, massive national debt and still a large budgetary deficit despite the hard work over the past 6-7 years. Hopefully we won't leave quite such a mess for our children!
rsbmw said:
I wonder whether you actually believe that or are just trolling. Every generation has its useless lazy moaners, the current ones usually being offspring of the previous ones. As far as I'm aware this is the first generation with huge amounts of super successful 20 somethings, leading the world in technology etc. It's also the generation that's been left in the biggest mess by the baby boomers, unaffordable housing, massive national debt and still a large budgetary deficit despite the hard work over the past 6-7 years. Hopefully we won't leave quite such a mess for our children!
Outside of the south East, where is unaffordable housing in any major way?Just sorted out deposits on great first time homes for the kids. Detached at less than £200k.
There is masses of affordable housing that I can find.
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