Finance advice for a 22 year old

Finance advice for a 22 year old

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M94

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32 posts

91 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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Alright, i've been lurking around for a fair while now and in particular this finance section. Basically I'm just looking for a bit of advice on what to do with my money... I've never been the best at saving and now at the fresh young age of 22 and while still living at home, have decided it's time to start... So, here goes...

Current wage: £42.5k(+overtime) before tax and national insurance.

Monthly bills (car+running costs, keep, phone, gym, insurance and subscriptions):£691

Usually spend around £400 per month socially with friends, girlfriend etc. and dont really spend money on clothes/shoes/gadgets.

I already pay into a pension scheme (£60p/m) and buy company shares(£50p/m) that are in a 3 year scheme.

Take home roughly £2500 as a basic wage and can make that up to £2900-£3000 per month with some overtime.

Looking for advice/ideas on what to do with my remaining cash. I know the usual 'stick money away in a bank account somewhere' advice but am looking to see if the financially savvy on here can educate me briefly in better options!

Cheers,
M94

Edited by M94 on Saturday 17th September 00:53


Edited by M94 on Saturday 17th September 00:57

-bishop

973 posts

129 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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On that salary your pension contributions are awfully low and your expenditure seems high considering you don't have a mortgage

M94

Original Poster:

32 posts

91 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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Should have mentioned that my pension contribution is getting increased to £120 next month sorry.

-bishop

973 posts

129 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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Depends what your employer pays in and your personal circumstance - personally I pay in 8% gross with my employer adding 12% onto that and I worry that isn't enough!

M94

Original Poster:

32 posts

91 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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I'll need to dig the paperwork out but I'm sure my employer pays in the same as I do. I'll gradually increase what I put into my pension as I get older but for the moment I felt that would've been enough. Admittedly though, I'm not too clued up on my pension scheme

westberks

941 posts

135 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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It depends what your targets are imho.

Want to buy a property of your own? Save cash as quickly as you can, keep it easy access

Pension concerns? Probably not at 22 but the earlier you up payments the less it will cost you in the long run

It's good that you are thinking about it at such a young age, try not to blow all on trivial stuff, which if you aren't too fussed about gadgets & clothes.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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Where is the other 1.5k going if you are not saving?

I don't think you are spending too much considering your age as well as your salary is very good for your age, about 2 times the average salary of others in your age group. I would be looking to speak with a financial advisor and get you on saving scheme and investments. There are a few first time buyers saving schemes available.

Put a couple of grand away each month over the year and you will have 24k savings.

Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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You don't actually need it at the moment but get a couple of online appraisals for life assurance. You would be surprised how cheap it is someone your age and you tie in to the rate of a 22 year old for, say, the next 40 years.

Lifetime ISA comes out next year and I would open one with £4K limit pa attracting 25% govt bonus which is paid annually next year but monthly thereafter. It can be used for retirement savings or house purchase.

You have until Nov 2019 to open a Help to Buy ISA - smaller limit but same 25% govt contribution. Use to buy a house instead of the Lifetime ISA?

Sarnie

8,042 posts

209 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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Jockman said:
You don't actually need it at the moment but get a couple of online appraisals for life assurance. You would be surprised how cheap it is someone your age and you tie in to the rate of a 22 year old for, say, the next 40 years.
You wouldn't believe how many young FTB's I give that advice to......but unfortunately youth blinds them.....

gazapc

1,320 posts

160 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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You need to think of your short, medium, and long term goals. Eg. Are you wanting to move out soon/buy a house?
A long term goal of retiring early? Saving for a break from work in X years?

In any case I would maximise the matched company pension contributions, that free money helps! It's scary how much money you potentially need to fund retirement.

If you are keeping cash there are some ok account saving rates but they have limits and rates are still on the way down. Where is the money going at the moment?

Not that you absolutely need it but I'm guessing there could be some efficiency in subscriptions, phones etc...to reduce out goings.

M94

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32 posts

91 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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Appreciating all the replies, all really helpful advice.

Looking to move out in the next 2/3 years.

A few have asked where the money has all gone so far. I've just paid off a holiday which has taken a fair chunk of it. cool

Hoofy

76,341 posts

282 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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Given how expensive properties are, I'd be opting for the boring route and not be wasting it on stuff. Can you save £2k a month?

CrouchingWayne

686 posts

176 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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Good wage at a good age! I'm a few years older but have generally been a "saver" since leaving university. Something that works for me is to have a day to day account, a bills account and a savings account. Each month put your bills (£600) into the bills account and all the direct debits etc will draw on that. Leave yourself £400 in the day to day for your spends and transfer the rest into savings account. If you need more you can dip into savings, but there's a litttle mental barrier there as you have to move it out of that account.

If you're looking to move in a couple years I would focus on cash instead of stocks and shares/trackers. Something like a Santander 123 account would be a good start -although the rate is dropping down soon it will still probably be competitive once everyone else reacts.

Simpo Two

85,363 posts

265 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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Whatever it is you do, I wish I'd done it!

You have bundles of spare cash; now is the time to lay the foundations for a secure future. I'd be looking for a house right now, and then use some of that surplus wonga to pay the mortgage down early.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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M94 said:
Current wage: £42.5k(+overtime) before tax and national insurance.
This is very, very straightforward.

  • Calculate your total taxable pay (or look at last year's P60)
  • Look at the threshold where 40% tax begins - namely taxable pay of £43,000
  • Make sure that as much as possible of your pay over £43,000 is going into pension. Yes, the money will be tied up until you retire (from age 55) but with 30 years tax free cumulation it's incredible valuable to make contributions as early in your working life as possible. 40% tax relief up front is too good to miss and may well be withdrawn in future!
  • Any remaining money that you don't NEED to retain in cash as an emergency or short term savings fund could usefully be going into a stocks and shares ISA. Again, there's excellent tax benefits albeit that investments are made out of taxed income. And the money will be accessible if/when you want to buy a house.
Time is on your side! Don't delay, make it work for you.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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^^ Just to add - Depending on the type of pension scheme your employer operates you may be able to contribute as much as you like into it. If not, you can open a SIPP to soak up additional pension contributions and run it in parallel.

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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Ozzie Osmond said:
This is very, very straightforward.

  • Calculate your total taxable pay (or look at last year's P60)
  • Look at the threshold where 40% tax begins - namely taxable pay of £43,000
  • Make sure that as much as possible of your pay over £43,000 is going into pension. Yes, the money will be tied up until you retire (from age 55) but with 30 years tax free cumulation it's incredible valuable to make contributions as early in your working life as possible. 40% tax relief up front is too good to miss and may well be withdrawn in future!
  • Any remaining money that you don't NEED to retain in cash as an emergency or short term savings fund could usefully be going into a stocks and shares ISA. Again, there's excellent tax benefits albeit that investments are made out of taxed income. And the money will be accessible if/when you want to buy a house.
Time is on your side! Don't delay, make it work for you.
Very sound advice from Ozzie there. I know it seems a bit mental to be putting money into your pension when you're probably 50 years away from retiring, but the chances are that at this point in your life you have a larger proportion of disposable income than you ever will. Bung it all in your pension for a couple of years and you'll thank your younger self when you're wrinkly.

AlexC1981

4,918 posts

217 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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M94 said:
Looking to move out in the next 2/3 years.
I wouldn't risk shares over such a short space of time unless you know you can wait for them to go back up if they dip. You're going to want as big as deposit as possible when you buy, so just put your money in the best savings account you can find.

I would also leave the pension at £120 per month while your saving for a house deposit. Two or three more years of keeping it at that rate won't make much difference by the time you are 60+.

BJG1

5,966 posts

212 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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M94 said:
Looking to move out in the next 2/3 years.
I must be getting old, find it very weird someone earning over £40k a year at 22 years old would want to live at home. I'm 27 and was living in London on £21k as soon as I graduated. Can't imagine anyone in my social group choosing to live at home when they have the financial means to have their independence.

M94

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32 posts

91 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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I get it easy at home. Cooking, cleaning, ironing etc. Is all done for me. I wanna get myself a decent house when I move out therefore I'm in no rush. I don't wanna be paying a mortgage for something that I'm not happy in.