HMRC Self Assessment Penalty - PAYE employee
Discussion
You are not supposed to lose them. They are legal documents.
However, there are ways you can get hold of the information if you have managed to lose or mislay the P60s.
Are there payslips for the last salary amount for the relevant tax year? For example, if the salary was paid monthly, the final payslip would be for the month ended 31 March 2014 or perhaps month ended 5 April 2014.
The gross salary and PAYE deducted for the tax year 5 April 2014 would be shown on that final payslip.
If these have also been lost, the employer should have a record of the salary amounts involved for the relevant years. If you contact them, they should be able to provide you with the details.
However, there are ways you can get hold of the information if you have managed to lose or mislay the P60s.
Are there payslips for the last salary amount for the relevant tax year? For example, if the salary was paid monthly, the final payslip would be for the month ended 31 March 2014 or perhaps month ended 5 April 2014.
The gross salary and PAYE deducted for the tax year 5 April 2014 would be shown on that final payslip.
If these have also been lost, the employer should have a record of the salary amounts involved for the relevant years. If you contact them, they should be able to provide you with the details.
The final salary slip MAY include the brought forward totals from the previous employments.
Obviously, the P60 data is the best to have so I would ask the employer first for a copy of that data. They MAY even be able to provide an actual copy of the P60 itself.
Once upon a time they would refuse to supply copies - chiefly because the law said that only one actual P60 could be generated for each employer.
In the digital age this point is a bit moot so often they can and will provide an actual copy.
Previous employment data should also be on the P45s that were received from the employers when the employment ceased.
have they been lost too?
Obviously, the P60 data is the best to have so I would ask the employer first for a copy of that data. They MAY even be able to provide an actual copy of the P60 itself.
Once upon a time they would refuse to supply copies - chiefly because the law said that only one actual P60 could be generated for each employer.
In the digital age this point is a bit moot so often they can and will provide an actual copy.
Previous employment data should also be on the P45s that were received from the employers when the employment ceased.
have they been lost too?
We've now got a P60 from her current employer, they issued it to her in April 2014.
The income total seems suspiciously low but she was working a 0 hour contract for 3 months prior so I'm not sure if it's including other work or not (all of it was PAYE), may just have to treat it as gospel and submit with that info as it's all we've now got.
The income total seems suspiciously low but she was working a 0 hour contract for 3 months prior so I'm not sure if it's including other work or not (all of it was PAYE), may just have to treat it as gospel and submit with that info as it's all we've now got.
OP, Eric Mc is possibly the most helpful person on PH and has been as long as I have been a member.
During that time I have never seen him say anything incorrect.
However, he is ALWAYS in serious accountant mode and can make the simplest thing sound like a hideous crime.
For the first time ever I would have to advise you to ignore him for the sake of your blood pressure.
HMRC is an absolute mess and they know it. I have appealed about 15 fines via my company and individual over the past couple of years and every appeal has been immediately accepted, even one where I accepted half the blame and offered to pay half.The other 14 were all HMRCs fault in one way or another and I get the impression that if they investigated 100 appeals they would uphold 95 hence they just don't seem to bother. I don't think they even read them, they just accept them as far as I can see.
The above is, admittedly, merely an impression gained from experience but the point is that your case is massively trivial compared with half of mine which have been in the thousands in some cases,
During that time I have never seen him say anything incorrect.
However, he is ALWAYS in serious accountant mode and can make the simplest thing sound like a hideous crime.
For the first time ever I would have to advise you to ignore him for the sake of your blood pressure.
HMRC is an absolute mess and they know it. I have appealed about 15 fines via my company and individual over the past couple of years and every appeal has been immediately accepted, even one where I accepted half the blame and offered to pay half.The other 14 were all HMRCs fault in one way or another and I get the impression that if they investigated 100 appeals they would uphold 95 hence they just don't seem to bother. I don't think they even read them, they just accept them as far as I can see.
The above is, admittedly, merely an impression gained from experience but the point is that your case is massively trivial compared with half of mine which have been in the thousands in some cases,
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