Best way to buy Pick-up through business

Best way to buy Pick-up through business

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sidekickdmr

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5,078 posts

207 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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Good morning all!

I was in the market for a pickup truck anyway, and was planning to buy personally.

However on another thread on PH lots of people were saying as its classed as a commercial vehicle they have bought one through their business for basically nothing, and indicated that there was a way to almost completely offset it.

Now I've had a quick chat to my accountant but to be honest I don’t understand.

Can someone explain the best way to finance a commercial vehicle through my VAT registered Ltd company, and how much its likely to cost me?

Lets say for arguments sake its £19,999 + VAT brand new

It's used mainly for business, site visits etc, but will also be my only car, so used personally too, say 8,000 miles a year, 50/50 split personal/business.

Help as I’m very confused confused

sidekickdmr

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5,078 posts

207 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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No one have any idea?

It’s so hard to get a straight, understandable figure from anyone, I've tried accountant and the finance guy at ford but no luck.

Willhire89

1,329 posts

206 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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I asked the same question just over a year ago when I was buying the Amarok - 100% relief through your business

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Eric Mc

122,077 posts

266 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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As long as the vehicle is

a) recognised by HMRC as a commercial vehicle

b) is intended for use for the purpose of the trading activity of the business

then

i) it will be eligible for the 100% Capital Allowance claim (Annual Investment Allowance or AIA)

ii) Input VAT on the purchase price can be reclaimed

iii) personal use will be taxed under the more generous PAYE Benefit in Kind rules applying to vans and commercial vehicles

To claim the 100% Capital Allowance the vehicle must be PURCHASED by the business - contract hire, operating leases or rentals DO NOT COUNT as purchases.

Purchasing outright for cash, purchasing under a bank loan or purchasing under a HP agreement (and it MUST be a straightforward HP and not any sort of finance lease)will allow the 100% Capital Allowances to be claimed.

sidekickdmr

Original Poster:

5,078 posts

207 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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Ok great, thanks for that, seems much simpler to understand.

One last question, what happens if I take it out on HP through the business, over say 2/3 years

But I want to close the business down next year?

Only hypothetical, just need to know worst case.

Thanks smile


Eric Mc

122,077 posts

266 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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sidekickdmr said:
Ok great, thanks for that, seems much simpler to understand.

One last question, what happens if I take it out on HP through the business, over say 2/3 years

But I want to close the business down next year?

Only hypothetical, just need to know worst case.

Thanks smile
When a business closes down, any assets that are still on the books at the time of closure need to be accounted for to HMRC.

If you claimed 100% Capital Allowances when the asset was purchased, that means the asset, for tax purposes, has Nil value once the allowances have been claimed.

In reality, of course, it is likely that the asset (especially a fairly new pick up) will have some considerable market value at the date of the business closure. HMRC expects the Corporation Tax calculation at the end of the business to include the declaration of the "sale" of the vehicle for its market value at the date of disposal/closure of the business. Corporation Tax will be charged on the market value.

As far as VAT is concerned, on the final VAT return for the business VAT will be charged on the market value of the asset so HMRC will also claw back some of the VAT that was originally claimed by the business when the asset was originally purchased.

Eric Mc

122,077 posts

266 months

Saturday 15th October 2016
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And the other factor to remember when claiming Capital Allowances is that, when the vehicle is eventually disposed of, HMRC will charge Corporation Tax on the disposal proceeds or the Market Value if removed from the business without it being actually sold.

Cerbhd

338 posts

92 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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Boring answer, top up pension
Proper answer, vegas baby, you've ditched the ballast so enjoy

Cerbhd

338 posts

92 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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Sorry,wrong thread!

Eric Mc

122,077 posts

266 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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Just delete the irrelevant posts then.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

213 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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or at least link to the thread as it sounds much more interesting than this one.

Eric Mc

122,077 posts

266 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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Sorry it's boring but this is supposed to be one of PH's more "sensible" areas.