Student Credit Card for living expenses?

Student Credit Card for living expenses?

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98elise

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26,589 posts

161 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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My son has recently started university and I'm paying for his travel and food monthly.

We started off with me paying cash into his bank account but its a pain having to keep topping up every time he travels. especially when he's running low on cash. There is also the obvious issue of spending it all on beer smile

I would like to give him a credit card (with a low limit) just for food and travel, and I'll pay it off each month. It seems I can get a second credit card from my bank, and add him as a card holder.

Is this the best way to do it, or is there a better way?


NickCQ

5,392 posts

96 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Could you not pay him a fixed monthly allowance? That's what my parents did when I was at University several years ago. It usefully simulates what having a wage is like.

Set up a standing order and forget about it for three years.

98elise

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26,589 posts

161 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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NickCQ said:
Could you not pay him a fixed monthly allowance? That's what my parents did when I was at University several years ago. It usefully simulates what having a wage is like.

Set up a standing order and forget about it for three years.
The problem is his travel is variable. When he pays for travel up front its eating into his own money. Last night he text me to say he has £2 in his account, yet I owed him £50 for two weekends he's paid to come home. He has the odd trip to London as well which he needs to pay for at short notice. I want to exercise some control over what I paying for, but don't want to leave him short.

Also if I gave him a travel allowance it would probably be spent on beer...that's what I would do smile

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Banks like NatWest, RBS and Halifax have specific credit cards targeted at people in full-time education over the age of 18.

I'd get the lad to sort one out for himself. It's up to you who pays the account at month end. Either way, it will start him off with his own credit record.

Rangeroverover

1,523 posts

111 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Dangerous, if you keep paying for travel he will keep coming home

eybic

9,212 posts

174 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Surely variable expenses are a good lesson into how life is in the "real world"?

I'd also suggest an allowance which if not wasted will be enough to cover reasonable expenses.

NRS

22,162 posts

201 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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98elise said:
The problem is his travel is variable. When he pays for travel up front its eating into his own money. Last night he text me to say he has £2 in his account, yet I owed him £50 for two weekends he's paid to come home. He has the odd trip to London as well which he needs to pay for at short notice. I want to exercise some control over what I paying for, but don't want to leave him short.

Also if I gave him a travel allowance it would probably be spent on beer...that's what I would do smile
Surely that is like "real life" though? You need to save a bit previously for both expected and some unexpected things? It also would likely encourage him into budgeting more correctly as a student. When I was there 6(!) years ago most people would complain about being skint to their parents, get some extra money and then it'd go straight into beers/ holidays etc. They'd say they felt bad about it, but it happened repeated and frequently. You can go for the approach of providing for this behavior (let him enjoy his time as much as possible at higher cost to you) or teach him lessons for real life after uni (he has to budget properly). Your choice as to what you want to do. I'd say although the former may be more fun at the time the latter is the better life lesson and sorting them out for the rest of their life.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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It's difficult to juggle. If he's not getting enough cash or he can't use the cash for what he wants, there is a whole host of interest free student overdrafts and credit cards that he could find himself deep in and not even realise the consequences until he's out of uni and realising it's going to take a while to pay off.

I'm not suggesting blank cheques, I would go with the monthly allowance and occasional bank transfers for things he needs and are within reason (obviously subject to discussion)

Mattt

16,661 posts

218 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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I too would stick with monthly allowance, let him learn to budget.

These days with faster payments you can send him cash instantly if he needs it - see above point that if he budgets then he shouldn't run out of cash and will have plenty of warning.

98elise

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26,589 posts

161 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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NRS said:
98elise said:
The problem is his travel is variable. When he pays for travel up front its eating into his own money. Last night he text me to say he has £2 in his account, yet I owed him £50 for two weekends he's paid to come home. He has the odd trip to London as well which he needs to pay for at short notice. I want to exercise some control over what I paying for, but don't want to leave him short.

Also if I gave him a travel allowance it would probably be spent on beer...that's what I would do smile
Surely that is like "real life" though? You need to save a bit previously for both expected and some unexpected things? It also would likely encourage him into budgeting more correctly as a student. When I was there 6(!) years ago most people would complain about being skint to their parents, get some extra money and then it'd go straight into beers/ holidays etc. They'd say they felt bad about it, but it happened repeated and frequently. You can go for the approach of providing for this behavior (let him enjoy his time as much as possible at higher cost to you) or teach him lessons for real life after uni (he has to budget properly). Your choice as to what you want to do. I'd say although the former may be more fun at the time the latter is the better life lesson and sorting them out for the rest of their life.
Thats why I will pay for food and travel only.

98elise

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26,589 posts

161 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Mattt said:
I too would stick with monthly allowance, let him learn to budget.

These days with faster payments you can send him cash instantly if he needs it - see above point that if he budgets then he shouldn't run out of cash and will have plenty of warning.
It doesn't matter how fast the payments are, I don't want him to be stuck somewhere with no cash because I owe him some expenses. I want to be able to deal with it once per month rather then ad-hoc.

I want some control/evidence on what I'm paying for, but I want to keep it simple. The question is more about the mechanism for making the payments rather then if it should be a fixed allowance.

Edited by 98elise on Tuesday 25th October 19:41

dave87

525 posts

203 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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I had a student Barclaycard when I was at University. Perfect for building a credit profile/history and the limit wasn't that big - circa £5-600 iirc.

Not sure if they still do them, but that may be one option.

Edit to say - he should use that for the unexpected expenses (i.e. the train fares) as this will give you a month to reimburse. Then his normal living expenses are spent out of his allowance etc. He just has to be trustworthy enough to use the credit card for only that purpose, otherwise you'll end up bailing him out!

bigandclever

13,787 posts

238 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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98elise said:
Thats why I will pay for food and travel only.
How do you know he's not buying booze with his food budget?

QuartzDad

2,251 posts

122 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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My son at Uni has a supplementary card on one of my cards. All his spending is separately itemised on the bill, nice and simple.

Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Stop being soft. Give him £x and tell him that when it's gone it's gone. That might stop him spending it on beer, and as others have said, teach him how to work to a budget, not live on Bank of Dad.

GT03ROB

13,262 posts

221 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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In the good old days when I was at Uni it was simples.

All the money at beginning of the term, pay for terms accommodation at the start left so much, divide by 10 (for no of term weeks), that's how much you had to spend each week. Want more for the following week, spend less this week.

It's really not rocket science.

98elise

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26,589 posts

161 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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bigandclever said:
98elise said:
Thats why I will pay for food and travel only.
How do you know he's not buying booze with his food budget?
He maybe, but one way or another he needs to by food. If he uses the food money to buy beer then he will need to spend his own beer money on food, or starve.

He currently gets cash so he could simply blow that on a couple of nights clubbing.

Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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98elise said:
bigandclever said:
98elise said:
Thats why I will pay for food and travel only.
How do you know he's not buying booze with his food budget?
He maybe, but one way or another he needs to by food. If he uses the food money to buy beer then he will need to spend his own beer money on food, or starve.
That seems entirely fair and reasonable to me. Money is money, he has to learn to prioritise. Otherwise that's how people have 50" TVs in every room when the bailiffs turn up.

bigandclever

13,787 posts

238 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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It's a conundrum alright.

beeej

1,400 posts

193 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Pay him a fixed allowance. srsly.