Your Investment performance for 2016.

Your Investment performance for 2016.

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emicen

8,585 posts

218 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Haven’t actually bothered to figure it out.

I transferred a number of holdings in to an ISA so I’m effectively considering them new buys and the old positions closed out. I know where that left me overall but not done the math for just 2018.

Fair to say, since the new positions opened with the same shares in my ISA, it’s all been red!

durbster

10,273 posts

222 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Dare I mention Brexit? Is that a factor?

siovey

1,643 posts

138 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Was 300% up. Now down 10%. laugh
Luckily I didn't put a great deal in and hopefully won't need the money for a few years. Annoying I could have sold and bought 3 times the amount of shares but that's hindsight (and aim!) for you!

p1stonhead

25,549 posts

167 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Down 5% for the year. Utter pants all around!

emicen

8,585 posts

218 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Ran the numbers, actually not as bad as I expected.

From 03/01/18 to present market price, I’m down 2.93% after factoring in dividends.

The oilers have taken a right humping since the turn of the year and from the current oil price trend, I suspect they’ve got another seeing to coming before Christmas.

bmwmike

6,949 posts

108 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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On my stocks and shares ISA only, I'm down 4.2% since 13 months ago if I take away the credits (contributions and divs) during that 13 month period from the current balance.

Otherwise I'm 2% up from 13 months ago.

If I'd sold out completely on 30th September id be 13.5% up.




xeny

4,309 posts

78 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Up 5.04% on the year to date, which isn't so bad in the context of the past few years' returns.

Caddyshack

10,816 posts

206 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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emicen said:
sidicks said:
Where do you get 71.25% increase from?
Woops, egg on my face, clicked the wrong cell for one of the initial values paperbag

Did a proper breakdown below, since we're doing percentages I havent bothered trying to convert the EUR or USD stocks for GBP equivalence. Took the time to calculate the dividends this time though;

Company 5-Jan-16 (A) 3-Jan-17 (B) Divs (C) ((B-A)+C)/A
A £51.04 £69.40 £2.21 40.30%
B £689.20 £1,034.60 £58.82 58.65%
C £147.20 £266.20 £4.33 83.78%
D £283.93 £841.75 £0.00 196.46%
E $328.16 $351.19 $5.96 8.83%
F € 390.00 € 431.25 € 0.25 10.64%
Total 1,889.53 2,994.39 71.57 62.26%


All individual stocks, no funds.
Doesn’t the above mean you made a little bit of money from a little bit invested or are these listed in millions?

williaa68

1,528 posts

166 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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December was a cruel month. Finished the year down just shy of 4%, and that's with almost 20% cash. A few decent performers (Syncona, Soul Pattinson), some real stinkers. I fortunately sold all my bank shares but got hammered on insurance company stocks - Aviva, both equity and prefs and the Prudential, all down around 25%. Tricky to know whether to sell or hold from here....

gregs1959

102 posts

115 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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Up 1.6% that’s from October 16 up to date. Thank goodness for Linsdell Train as that’s the one that pulled me out of the shi....... at 12.2%. The rest took a hammering.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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GT03ROB said:
Well down, about 7% at present for the year......
1st negative performance for a fair few years so can't complain too much.
Yup, that's about the score.
Longer term performance dipped from +10% annualised to +9% annualised.

Caterham.lover

30 posts

64 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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rockin said:
Yup, that's about the score.
Longer term performance dipped from +10% annualised to +9% annualised.
That's the important thing with equities, you expect some down years, but over the long term you should be well ahead.

Countdown

39,899 posts

196 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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Caddyshack said:
emicen said:
sidicks said:
Where do you get 71.25% increase from?
Woops, egg on my face, clicked the wrong cell for one of the initial values paperbag

Did a proper breakdown below, since we're doing percentages I havent bothered trying to convert the EUR or USD stocks for GBP equivalence. Took the time to calculate the dividends this time though;

Company 5-Jan-16 (A) 3-Jan-17 (B) Divs (C) ((B-A)+C)/A
A £51.04 £69.40 £2.21 40.30%
B £689.20 £1,034.60 £58.82 58.65%
C £147.20 £266.20 £4.33 83.78%
D £283.93 £841.75 £0.00 196.46%
E $328.16 $351.19 $5.96 8.83%
F € 390.00 € 431.25 € 0.25 10.64%
Total 1,889.53 2,994.39 71.57 62.26%


All individual stocks, no funds.
Doesn’t the above mean you made a little bit of money from a little bit invested or are these listed in millions?
I’m guessing the quoted amounts are “per share”, not “total invested in each company”

coetzeeh

2,648 posts

236 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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4.53% down for the year ouch.

Trying to convice myself that current market status is an opportunity.

5pen

1,891 posts

206 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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My like-for-like performance excluding the investments made during 2018 is -7.5%.

Including the new investments (which have remained flat basically), it is -6.5%.

Next year Rodders.

emicen

8,585 posts

218 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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Start End Div Overall
£5,261.65 £4,955.02 £122.76 -3.49%


anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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As Sidicks and others would cheerfully point out, these "one year" percentages mean very little without the context of a risk profile and longer term picture.

Bear in mind that investment gurus who deposited their money in the building society on 1 January 2018 will be showing numerical gains!

Ginge R

4,761 posts

219 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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.. what about the picture after investors take their dividends into account?

emicen

8,585 posts

218 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2019
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emicen said:
A thread worth revisiting annually?

2017 was hit, miss and meh from my point of view
Company 2015 2016 2017
A -33.95% 40.30% 22.93%
B -3.67% 58.65% 7.20%
C -30.08% 83.78% 20.95%
D 196.46% -26.37%
E 1.17% 8.83% 13.82%
F 29.22% 10.64% 19.56%
G -5.62%
H -56.87%
Total -1.82% 62.26% -2.83%


G & H were new additions and both pretty much cliff dived as soon as I got in rolleyes

I think in 2018 I'm going to invest in some funds rather than individual stocks whilst I figure out a better strategy for picking winners...
Company 2015 2016 2017 2018 Overall
A -33.95% 40.30% 22.93% 14.11% 26.13%
B -3.67% 58.65% 7.20% 0.93% 61.26%
C -30.08% 83.78% 20.95% 12.79% 60.76%
D 196.46% -26.37% -9.85% 42.17%
E 1.17% 8.83% 13.82% 13.21% 39.95%
F 29.22% 10.64% 19.56% -16.49% 42.67%
G -5.62% -16.39% -28.49%
H -56.87% 7.08% -53.82%
I -6.29% -6.29%
J -6.95% -6.95%
K -0.48% -0.48%


Dividends included or re-invested where applicable.

Pups [both AIM]:
- G was actually in profit for a month or so, should have cut and run really
- H has been up and down, I remain of the mindset to hold for the longer term

Works out at 9.36% up over the 4 years. Seeing as life would be boring without what ifs, would be up 25% if it weren't for the pups.

xeny

4,309 posts

78 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2019
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up 2.3% on the year including dividends and after fees with a 100% equity portfolio.