£4.5 million - enough to not have to work again?

£4.5 million - enough to not have to work again?

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robt350c

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153 posts

128 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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Planning for the future and an unstable job future....

Wife, two young children, house paid off, don't have a need for a majorly expensive lifestyle - say £50-60k per annum more than enough for the family.

Worse case scenario that work is not a future option, would this be enough to live from comfortably - age 46?

Funds held in a mixture of pension, isa, company.

Thoughts appreciated in advance.

Edited by robt350c on Saturday 21st January 23:12

AndStilliRise

2,295 posts

116 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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If you have it in your bank account, then yes.

McFsC

578 posts

152 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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Say you die at 86.

40 years of 60k = 2.4m... Why would you think it's not enough?

That's not including interest, investing some etc.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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Seriously?

037

1,317 posts

147 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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Worst 'I'm about to inherit 4 big ones' ever!

MitchT

15,862 posts

209 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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If you're happy with a modest lifestyle it should just about work. The danger is inflation eroding the value of the interest that you live on. 1% interest is £45k which would work now for someone living sensibly, but in 10 ... 20 ... years? Of course, if interest rates went up it'd work better.

DSLiverpool

14,740 posts

202 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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Centurion07 said:
Seriously?
It's an interesting night across the boards tonight

ellroy

7,028 posts

225 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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Yes, decent planning and an understanding of likely future requirements, very easily.

mikees

2,747 posts

172 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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If you are happy to erode the principle easy. 40 years at 100k year no tax. No mortagage. 100k after tax equals say 160k before. So yes easy

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

212 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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I think I could probably just make it work, tighten the belt here and there.

TheInternet

4,716 posts

163 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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If you're prepared to live on a pittance then it's viable. I don't think I'd be happy to cut back on basics but if money's tight then needs must.

AAGR

918 posts

161 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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Find a good Personal Finance Adviser (one personally recommended to you by someone you know reasonably well), and take advice. I did, some of my capital was invested for me in the stock market, and I am not complaining.

Seriously, you must do something with some of the money, because interest rates in bank/building society accounts are abysmal right now.

mikees

2,747 posts

172 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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Ps my planning is based on 2m at 55 ( 6 years to go) part interest part draw down plus a 200k float

Not sure if previous comments are pisstakes or very well off ph'ers

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Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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Am I missing something here?

£4.5m - would you be able to get an annual interest rate of 2.5% compounded monthly? Doesn't sound excessive?

Anyway, if you did that, and withdrew £8k per month, increasing with inflation at current rates, in 40 years time you'd still have nearly £2m in the bank.

On the other hand, if you've done well enough to accumulate cash and investments of £4.5m at 46, then why do you need to ask this question on a motoring forum?

Brads67

3,199 posts

98 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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Are you taking the piss?

That money would keep 20 people in comfort for there lifetime.

Seriously Dude ! Either you`re serious and thick, or a dreamer.

Rollin

6,088 posts

245 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Only a boring turd would need to ask.

Die quietly and give it the kids, in the hope they've got more imagination than you.


GG89

3,527 posts

186 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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For fks sake rolleyes

Only on ph AKA la la land.

Edited by GG89 on Sunday 22 January 00:21

Ginge R

4,761 posts

219 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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robt350c said:
Planning for the future and an unstable job future....

Wife, two young children, house paid off, don't have a need for a majorly expensive lifestyle - say £50-60k per annum more than enough for the family.

Worse case scenario that work is not a future option, would this be enough to live from comfortably - age 46?

Funds held in a mixture of pension, isa, company.

Thoughts appreciated in advance.

Edited by robt350c on Saturday 21st January 23:12
A nice problem to have, but a problem nonetheless.

How much is illiquid in the company - have you addressed entrepreneurs tax relief if you're walking away? If you died today, then £1.40 in the bank right now would probably be sufficient to see you to the end. But, if addressing matters beyond your lifespan is also important, have you put in place inter-generational protection and/or protection for your widow? Or, if you liquidate the lot and you're sitting on a pile, have you considered the impact of inheritance tax? Have you inherited any of your wealth? If so, you have two years to shuffle on new assets to the next generation, to get around some taxation problems. How will you drawdown, and in what sequence? Do you intend to leave the pension untouched for any beneficiaries, for instance?

On a strictly linear basis, drawing down from funds that size shouldn't present a problem. Real life however, is rarely as simple as the maths would want us to believe.

DSLiverpool

14,740 posts

202 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Linear is a good word ! You won't be spending £60k a year once elderly or the kids are working plus the house will be a nursing home or flat etc

To accumulate that amount one supposes one would be of a mind to know this

Jon39

12,825 posts

143 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Easy, unless you become involved with big boats, or racing cars.

However, always keep in mind Mr. Warren Buffett's quote, about cash and cash equivalents.

Try not to worry too much, about your inheritance tax liability.






Edited by Jon39 on Sunday 22 January 10:17