Paid cash in, counted and weighed. Bank now disputes figure.
Discussion
sidicks said:
cheddar said:
Exactly
Can we get it back there please
I've had this happen, a call 10 minutes after I left the bank, similar amount, I accepted that we're human and all make mistakes, they amended and everyone lived happily ever after
Was a similar amount involved in your case Can we get it back there please
I've had this happen, a call 10 minutes after I left the bank, similar amount, I accepted that we're human and all make mistakes, they amended and everyone lived happily ever after
sidicks said:
It would seem that you don't understand the difference between a few crooks and "the entire UK banking system".
You are more than aware that there have been multiple cover ups by during the fraud which were then continued by Lloyds. It wasn't ever 'a few crooks' and you well know it - that's why the cover ups continued and every effort at redress by those who lost EVERYTHING was stonewalled at every juncture - year after year and even at the present for those particular victims trying to get redress.Despite a huge and complex fraud being uncovered and exposed, ending with prison terms, those (presumably) at senior management level are doing everything they can to prevent the victims from being properly compensated.
A few crooks? Yes, you're in denial.
ReaderScars said:
You are more than aware that there have been multiple cover ups by during the fraud which were then continued by Lloyds. It wasn't ever 'a few crooks' and you well know it - that's why the cover ups continued and every effort at redress by those who lost EVERYTHING was stonewalled at every juncture - year after year and even at the present for those particular victims trying to get redress.
Despite a huge and complex fraud being uncovered and exposed, ending with prison terms, those (presumably) at senior management level are doing everything they can to prevent the victims from being properly compensated.
A few crooks? Yes, you're in denial.
I'm sure if you present all of the evidence (that you must have??) then there will be lots more convictions....Despite a huge and complex fraud being uncovered and exposed, ending with prison terms, those (presumably) at senior management level are doing everything they can to prevent the victims from being properly compensated.
A few crooks? Yes, you're in denial.
For the avoidance of doubt, are you supporting the claims made about the 'entire banking system'?
sidicks said:
ReaderScars said:
You are more than aware that there have been multiple cover ups by during the fraud which were then continued by Lloyds. It wasn't ever 'a few crooks' and you well know it - that's why the cover ups continued and every effort at redress by those who lost EVERYTHING was stonewalled at every juncture - year after year and even at the present for those particular victims trying to get redress.
Despite a huge and complex fraud being uncovered and exposed, ending with prison terms, those (presumably) at senior management level are doing everything they can to prevent the victims from being properly compensated.
A few crooks? Yes, you're in denial.
I'm sure if you present your evidence then there will be lots more convictions....Despite a huge and complex fraud being uncovered and exposed, ending with prison terms, those (presumably) at senior management level are doing everything they can to prevent the victims from being properly compensated.
A few crooks? Yes, you're in denial.
Granfondo said:
Seems very strange that a few rogue workers brought the whole banking system to its knees which needed to be rescued by governments and taxpayers throughout the world!
You seem to be confused between the rogue workers who committed fraudulent acts and the mark-to-market issues faced by many banks operating entire within the law under banking regulation.sidicks said:
Granfondo said:
Seems very strange that a few rogue workers brought the whole banking system to its knees which needed to be rescued by governments and taxpayers throughout the world!
You seem to be confused between the rogue workers who committed fraudulent acts and the mark-to-market issues faced by many banks operating entire within the law under banking regulation.Who caused these issues?
sidicks said:
cheddar said:
Erm, yes..............
Oops! sorry about that!Was the counting process the same?
Edited by sidicks on Thursday 16th February 21:38
cheddar said:
Cash put through a note counter, discrepancy noted by myself (+£60), receipt issued, call made to me ten minutes later, polite and apologetic, accepted as a genuine mistake
I guess they are solely relying on people's good nature, as I can't believe that legally they have any right to ask for money back in this type of scenario.Perhaps you should print some of these emoticons out and hold them up in the real world.
It seems you know little of what's happened during the negligence and criminal activity which lead to Operation Hornet (even less than me), yet you berate others for pointing out evidence and the ongoing cover ups. Perhaps you should stop fixating on 'the entire banking industry' or whatever pedantic triviality you're basing your 'argument' on, and accept there have been, and are, practices put in place which causing further damage and distress to victims.
You're in denial. It's happening but you won't see it. This is now, at the present. Do you understand that? Do you accept that? Ongoing behaviour by those now in senior positions, making decision to prevent redress from those victims?
You come across more than a little defensive, by the way.
It seems you know little of what's happened during the negligence and criminal activity which lead to Operation Hornet (even less than me), yet you berate others for pointing out evidence and the ongoing cover ups. Perhaps you should stop fixating on 'the entire banking industry' or whatever pedantic triviality you're basing your 'argument' on, and accept there have been, and are, practices put in place which causing further damage and distress to victims.
You're in denial. It's happening but you won't see it. This is now, at the present. Do you understand that? Do you accept that? Ongoing behaviour by those now in senior positions, making decision to prevent redress from those victims?
You come across more than a little defensive, by the way.
ReaderScars said:
Perhaps you should print some of these emoticons out and hold them up in the real world.
It seems you know little of what's happened during the negligence and criminal activity which lead to Operation Hornet (even less than me), yet you berate others for pointing out evidence and the ongoing cover ups. Perhaps you should stop fixating on 'the entire banking industry' or whatever pedantic triviality you're basing your 'argument' on, and accept there have been, and are, practices put in place which causing further damage and distress to victims.
That's never been in dispute.It seems you know little of what's happened during the negligence and criminal activity which lead to Operation Hornet (even less than me), yet you berate others for pointing out evidence and the ongoing cover ups. Perhaps you should stop fixating on 'the entire banking industry' or whatever pedantic triviality you're basing your 'argument' on, and accept there have been, and are, practices put in place which causing further damage and distress to victims.
ReaderScars said:
You're in denial. It's happening but you won't see it.
Except I'm not denying that there has been poor behaviour, in some cases criminal. Neither have I defended it.ReaderScars said:
This is now, at the present. Do you understand that? Do you accept that? Ongoing behaviour by those now in senior positions, making decision to prevent redress from those victims?
You come across more than a little defensive.
Poor behaviour? YesYou come across more than a little defensive.
Criminal behaviour? Widespread? Remains to be seen - if there is evidence of criminal behaviour then the full force of the law should be brought to bear.
Edited by sidicks on Thursday 16th February 22:04
sidicks said:
Poor behaviour? Yes
Criminal behaviour? Widespread? Remains to be seen - if there is evidence of criminal behaviour then the full force of the law should be brought to bear.
You seem to be attributing someone else's comments to my argument - I don't recall using the phrase widespread criminal behaviour. However I very much agree with the underlying sentiment of the comments made by the poster who used the phrases which seemed to hit a nerve with you.Criminal behaviour? Widespread? Remains to be seen - if there is evidence of criminal behaviour then the full force of the law should be brought to bear.
Edited by sidicks on Thursday 16th February 22:04
sidicks said:
I guess they are solely relying on people's good nature, as I can't believe that legally they have any right to ask for money back in this type of scenario.
I don't think the bank has any legal comeback on this one. Moral maybe, but as someone said above, what do you think would happen if you withdrew £5000 in cash, got home and found you were £60 short and went back and asked for it?I've paid £2000 and £1000 in cash into my account with First Direct over the last couple of weeks. The HSBC cashier didn't count either deposit. Both were straight onto the weighing machine and accepted.
Thinking about it now though, if your cashier both counted and weighed your cash, how likely is it that the cashier would overcount £4940 by £60 and then the machine would overweigh £4960 by £60?
ReaderScars said:
You seem to be attributing someone else's comments to my argument - I don't recall using the phrase widespread criminal behaviour. However I very much agree with the underlying sentiment of the comments made by the poster who used the phrases which seemed to hit a nerve with you.
I do wish you chaps would hand over all of your evidence to the appropriate authorities so that all these prosecutions (that you are so confident are due) can take place!S1_RS said:
Just to reply to the people saying I should refund the cash to whoever bought the car, the 5K was part of a stash of about 9K made up of £6.1K from the sale of the car plus other cash I made selling off parts of it before I sold it. I have no way of knowing what cash was what as it was all in one pile. I did double check the cash from the sale of the car when I got home and that came out exact, if he had overpaid I would have refunded him without question. Although obviously my counting skills have now been called into question.
With regard to the bank I know exactly what would have happened had I withdrawn 5K and then gone home and found it was £60 short.
Exactly this. I wouldn't be giving it back. How do you know one of the cashiers hasn't pocketed your £60 and has now called you up to say money is missing. With regard to the bank I know exactly what would have happened had I withdrawn 5K and then gone home and found it was £60 short.
sidicks said:
I do wish you chaps would hand over all of your evidence to the appropriate authorities so that all these prosecutions (that you are so confident are due) can take place!
Sid, I thought you worked in the financial industry. If you do, you really need to keep up. Didn't you know about this one:12000 business owners ripped off by RBS via its GRG Dept (ret'd) got a letter a few weeks ago. It's headed "Putting Things Right".
So Sid, you'd better get onto them PDQ and tell them to redact those letters because THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WRONG, have they?
Or have they?
Anyone else had the "Putting Things Right" letter? Give them a ring and tell them your tale. I did. And I've already had a fat compensation cheque for the mis-sold hedging product which was to hedge the unnecessarily reorganised loan arrangement I got charged the eye watering fees for. I didn't even know till the letter came that the scumsters who conned me are from RBS GRG. But apparently they were and apparently they've been forced to drain all the pus out of the GRG swamp. And apparently I'm a "classic case" for 'putting right".
Okay, it's banker wrongdoing so little or none of it's going to be dealt with by criminal procedures. It's not real serious stuff like misdeclaring income on a mortgage application which might get you a fraud charge and a Proceeds of Crime case on top. No no. Nothing like that. Just the wholesale unnecessary destruction of businesses and lives requiring BILLIONS in compensation on top of 10's maybe 100's of millions in investigatory expenses.
So get on to them quick. You just explain to them that they really didn't do anything wrong. The victims were all really victims of their own lack of understanding! And hurry up! I've already agreed a fee to a bank wolf to represent my case so if it was all just a kid-on and there's nothing to put right I'd like to know asap.
Thanks
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