Remortgage - Fix for How Many Years?

Remortgage - Fix for How Many Years?

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Guvernator

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13,161 posts

166 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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My current mortgage deal is about to come to the end of it's fixed rate deal so I need to decide on a remortgage. I've always gone for a 2 year fixed deal previously but surely interest rates are as low as they will go and the only way is up from here on in?

Rumblings that the BOE are also considering rate rises seem to occur quite regularly so bearing all that in mind, would it be better to go for a 5 year fixed rate instead? They seem to come in at about 0.7-1 percent more than the 2 year deals but obviously protect against rate rises for the next 5 years.

Over to you.

rfsteel

713 posts

171 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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I'm going through the same process, as my 2yr fixed rate ends in October.

Looking at the interest rates I'm being offered on a new 2yr fixed at 1.44% and 1.84% for 5yr fixed.

BoRED S2upid

19,713 posts

241 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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We have just gone for 5 as well as you know even a sniff of a rate rise and mortgages will shoot up overnight. 1.9 ish from memory a couple of quid more a month than our 2 year deal and the best bit no fees.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Have you considered a Ten year fixed option?
The upfront fee split as a per year cost is way way lower than a 5 year too.

I'm finishing off our extension first but then will be totally remortgaging and frankly I'm keen on the longest fixed rate possible to totally de risk interest rate fluctuations.

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Welshbeef said:
Have you considered a Ten year fixed option?
The upfront fee split as a per year cost is way way lower than a 5 year too.

I'm finishing off our extension first but then will be totally remortgaging and frankly I'm keen on the longest fixed rate possible to totally de risk interest rate fluctuations.
Yup, I'd be looking at 10 year products if they fitted my profile. However I like the ability to make decent overpayments.

Yipper

5,964 posts

91 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Fix 5 years and overpay. Get the debt cleared while money is cheap.

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Yipper said:
Fix 5 years and overpay. Get the debt cleared while money is cheap.
Variable product and overpay even more?

rubes78

455 posts

221 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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We're looking at remortgaging at the moment, 5 yrs at 1.8 % I think. As other have said, can see rates going north in the near future so keen to lock in and overpay as much as we can.

wombleh

1,794 posts

123 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Just went for two years but had forgotten how much paperwork is involved, wish I'd gone for five just on that basis.

DoubleSix

11,715 posts

177 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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wombleh said:
Just went for two years but had forgotten how much paperwork is involved, wish I'd gone for five just on that basis.
Did mine in 20mins online, no exaggeration. Albeit staying with the existing lender.

Willhire89

1,329 posts

206 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Welshbeef said:
Have you considered a Ten year fixed option?
Take a moment and think where you were, and what you were doing in life ten years ago and just how different your situation is (likely) now...............

Five years is a good chunk of time - ten is huge

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Willhire89 said:
Take a moment and think where you were, and what you were doing in life ten years ago and just how different your situation is (likely) now...............

Five years is a good chunk of time - ten is huge
I moved twice.
Got married
Had 3 kids

I don't foresee any changes & even IF we did move again get a portable 10year fixed. It's issue free.

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Willhire89 said:
Take a moment and think where you were, and what you were doing in life ten years ago and just how different your situation is (likely) now...............

Five years is a good chunk of time - ten is huge
Fair Comment.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Jockman said:
Willhire89 said:
Take a moment and think where you were, and what you were doing in life ten years ago and just how different your situation is (likely) now...............

Five years is a good chunk of time - ten is huge
Fair Comment.
Why does that matter?
Rates will not go down in ten years time instead they can only really go one way.
Get a portable version so if you move house it makes zero difference.


Is it purely the worry that you cannot pay it off quicker? Most people don't/cannot accelerate mortgage payments/term reduction.

Sarnie

8,046 posts

210 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Welshbeef said:
Get a portable version so if you move house it makes zero difference.
Unless you can't meet the lending criteria at the time of porting due to an unforeseen change of circumstance, probably linked to the unforeseen reason for wanting to port the mortgage........life has a habit of throwing you curve balls.

I've remortgaged more people off ten year rates than we've put on them............

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Sarnie said:
Unless you can't meet the lending criteria at the time of porting due to an unforeseen change of circumstance, probably linked to the unforeseen reason for wanting to port the mortgage........life has a habit of throwing you curve balls.

I've remortgaged more people off ten year rates than we've put on them............
But if you cannot meet the criteria to port that would apply to any mortgage product wouldn't it when moving?

Unless of course he fix for 10 is so much higher

Sarnie

8,046 posts

210 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Welshbeef said:
But if you cannot meet the criteria to port that would apply to any mortgage product wouldn't it when moving?

Unless of course he fix for 10 is so much higher
No, you may not meet THAT lenders criteria but may others......meaning you have no choice but to incur the ERC if you need to move home.

The last three years has seen MMR in 2014 and ECD in 2016, all have changed the way lenders assess applications...........there will be plenty of people on here who took a mortgage pre-2014, wanted further lending or to port their mortgage only to be told that they do not meet the current lending criteria.

Who knows what the next ten years will bring with your circumstances, lending criteria and the economy?


Edited by Sarnie on Monday 3rd July 20:40

HannsG

3,045 posts

135 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Willhire89 said:
Take a moment and think where you were, and what you were doing in life ten years ago and just how different your situation is (likely) now...............

Five years is a good chunk of time - ten is huge
This.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Sarnie said:
No, you may not meet THAT lenders criteria but may others......meaning you have no choice but to incur the ERC if you need to move home.

The last three years has seen MMR in 2014 and ECD in 2016, all have changed the way lenders assess applications...........there will be plenty of eople on here who took a mortgage pre-2014, wanted further lending or to port their mortgage only to be told that they do not meet the current lending criteria.

Who knows what the next ten years will bring with your circumstances, lending criteria and the economy?
That makes sense.

That said what is he 10 year mortgage offering like these days? Competitive/a lot more than 5 years? Etc.

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Welshbeef said:
That makes sense.

That said what is he 10 year mortgage offering like these days? Competitive/a lot more than 5 years? Etc.
Had a quick look at HSBC and First Direct 10 year products at the weekend. Decent offerings but rates would still need to rise a fair bit to make it worthwhile.

As to your other point above, I would add to the other replies the possible changes in your own circumstances such as a redundancy, death of the main breadwinner, divorce etc