Joint Finances

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Granfondo

12,241 posts

207 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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Is there any married couples with separate accounts?

BRISTOL86

1,097 posts

106 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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Tit For Tat said:
Don't do it !!! eekeek

Keep what's yours as yours, if you have joint accounts she will legally have access to all of it. Particularly dangerous with savings accounts. All very well for these trusting souls to say the split everything 50/50, but if the st hits the fan, trust becomes an expensive mistake.

Keep finances and emotions separate.
All comes down to the individuals in question.

There is simply no set of circumstances where Mrs Bristol (to be) would try and take anything that wasn't morally hers. Plus our savings amount to about £700 as of now so not entirely a major concern smile

Tit For Tat

165 posts

83 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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BRISTOL86 said:
All comes down to the individuals in question.

There is simply no set of circumstances where Mrs Bristol (to be) would try and take anything that wasn't morally hers. Plus our savings amount to about £700 as of now so not entirely a major concern smile
Bristol, I admire your trust in your partner.

All I will say is, things change, people change. What was once unthinkable becomes commonplace.

Good luck!

ForZiE23

194 posts

96 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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XJ75 said:
We both pay into a joint account. I earn about 4 times as much as the wife so I contribute twice as much. This covers most of the usual living expenses. For holidays we typically just top-up the joint account, with me paying more.

Ultimately the money that I don't put into the joint account I'm saving each month anyway, and that's likely to go towards paying off the mortgage or something similar that will benefit both of us anyway. I don't have many expenses just for me anyway.
Same setup for me with the Mrs.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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Tit For Tat said:
Bristol, I admire your trust in your partner.

All I will say is, things change, people change. What was once unthinkable becomes commonplace.

Good luck!
If things change then you can set up a single account.

Where's the risk?

BoRED S2upid

19,713 posts

241 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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desolate said:
BoRED S2upid said:
Now you see to me that's a recipe for disaster she wants a £300 handbag out of the joint account and just goes ahead or has to get your permission? Likewise when you need to make a frivolous purchase.
Why a recipe for disaster?
See the example I gave she spends £300 out of the joint account on a haircut, handbag, shoes you know items that should cost £20 max and you accept this? Or question it? After all it's joint money. In our case I don't know or care about such spends as it's come out of her money not ours.

cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

119 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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BRISTOL86 said:
We have a joint account only. No individual accounts.

We are both working towards the same goals in life so we treat everything 50/50.
You evidently don't have a wife with a penchant for horses. Her ability to turn money into horse st is incredible.

Therefore we have a joint account, and our own separate accounts, any disposable left after paying into the joint account is then ours.

danny0001uk1

261 posts

150 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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georgefreeman918 said:
I recently purchased a property with my girlfriend and after many discussions, we came up with the following solution:

List all joint bills; mortgage, council tax, energy, water, broadband, tv, food, fuel, savings etc = £X

Then worked out the percentage I earned of our total monthly income as a percent e.g. 60%

We then each transfer our percentage of the monthly bills into a joint account. 60% + 40% = £X

We then each have our own accounts for cars, hobbies, general spending etc that are personal to each other.


I also 'estimate' monthly food and fuel costs and we put our percentage into the joint account. Therefore come the first of the month, all our bills are paid and money left is for spending.

Might be a bit overkill but it works well for us. Anyone else do similar?
Please could someone explain this with figures,

Say all bills = 1k a month

George Earns 1500 and his gf earns 1000 both after tax per month

Does George put in 60% of 1500 and she puts in 40% of 1000?



Tit For Tat

165 posts

83 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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desolate said:
If things change then you can set up a single account.

Where's the risk?
The risk is that you will be cleared out before you realise things have changed.

dingg

3,996 posts

220 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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one big cash bucket in my household

I fill it up as quick as I can and the rest of the family empties it as quick as they can , with a few kicks and well aimed punches I'm winning the battle of keeping it filled (just)

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GT03ROB

13,268 posts

222 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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Granfondo said:
Is there any married couples with separate accounts?
yes

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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BoRED S2upid said:
See the example I gave she spends £300 out of the joint account on a haircut, handbag, shoes you know items that should cost £20 max and you accept this? Or question it? After all it's joint money. In our case I don't know or care about such spends as it's come out of her money not ours.
If my wife managed to get a haircut, a handbag and a pair of shoes for 300 quid I would be shocked.

I have never questioned what she spent.

Since we lived together I have always seen any money as 'ours", so she can spend it as she wants.


If we split up that would obviously stop immediately.

Tit For Tat

165 posts

83 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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danny0001uk1 said:
Please could someone explain this with figures,

Say all bills = 1k a month

George Earns 1500 and his gf earns 1000 both after tax per month

Does George put in 60% of 1500 and she puts in 40% of 1000?
No. They pay in 60% and 40% respectively of the 1K bills total.

So Mr pays 600 quid, and Mrs pays 400.

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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GT03ROB said:
Granfondo said:
Is there any married couples with separate accounts?
yes
Yup - as previously posted.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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Tit For Tat said:
The risk is that you will be cleared out before you realise things have changed.
Well if you are going to get shafted, you are going to get shafted.

I am prepared to walk away potless to be honest. No point getting stressed over it.



BRISTOL86

1,097 posts

106 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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Tit For Tat said:
BRISTOL86 said:
All comes down to the individuals in question.

There is simply no set of circumstances where Mrs Bristol (to be) would try and take anything that wasn't morally hers. Plus our savings amount to about £700 as of now so not entirely a major concern smile
Bristol, I admire your trust in your partner.

All I will say is, things change, people change. What was once unthinkable becomes commonplace.

Good luck!
They do, but having been together for 15 years BEFORE marriage it takes a lot of the ambiguity out of it.

I wouldn't feel comfortable doing the same with someone I'd only known a couple of years for instance.

Henners

12,230 posts

195 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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Tit For Tat said:
Don't do it !!! eekeek

Keep what's yours as yours, if you have joint accounts she will legally have access to all of it. Particularly dangerous with savings accounts. All very well for these trusting souls to say the split everything 50/50, but if the st hits the fan, trust becomes an expensive mistake.

Keep finances and emotions separate.
Sad you see things this way, do you have a partner? If so, why don't you trust them?

To the OP:

We have a joint a/c for bills, we pay in more than what's needed and this is swept to the (joint) reserve each quarter - used for house work / holidays etc.

We have wages etc paid into our own personal accounts for ease and also secrecy wink

When he buys me a gift or vice versa it's nice not to see it on the account before we are given it! We do gifts / surprises pretty frequently. It also makes spotting any iffy transitions easier.

Materially, the reserve being joint is much 'riskier' but the trust is mutual. Plus, he doesn't 'do' banking - so its all left to me, he doesn't even know how to log on...

ETA: we do the same as nitrodave, below.


Edited by Henners on Friday 7th July 15:50

nitrodave

1,262 posts

139 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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We have a joint account which we both chuck a decent amount into it each month to cover groceries, home improvements, fuel in the cars, bills, mortgage etc... and have our own account for respective treats.

If she wants a £300 hair doo, she buys that. If I want to do a track day, I pay for it from my own account.

I do use my own money on some things like meals out, flights abroad and the odd bit of furniture which I don't mind at all and she does the same.

Works well for us and the only thing that would change this is if she stops earning to become a mum/housewife then all my money becomes hers.


Zetec-S

5,884 posts

94 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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We both have our own accounts, plus 1 joint account. As we earn similar amounts we both move equal amounts into the joint to cover all bills/direct debits. It's not used for anything else and we don't have debit cards for the account. (A hangover from when we were poorer and wanted to ringfence enough money to make sure we paid the rent/mortgage/bills/etc)

Fuel/shopping is paid for by whoever is going at the time. Sometimes we'll transfer money to each other if one of us is running low. If one of us wants to make a significant purchase then we'll discuss first.

danny0001uk1

261 posts

150 months

Friday 7th July 2017
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Tit For Tat said:
danny0001uk1 said:
Please could someone explain this with figures,

Say all bills = 1k a month

George Earns 1500 and his gf earns 1000 both after tax per month

Does George put in 60% of 1500 and she puts in 40% of 1000?
No. They pay in 60% and 40% respectively of the 1K bills total.

So Mr pays 600 quid, and Mrs pays 400.
But why does Mr Pay in 60 percent and his miss pay 40 percent?