My financial plan for the short/medium term - Any advice?

My financial plan for the short/medium term - Any advice?

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BoRED S2upid

19,713 posts

241 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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sidicks said:
Eh?

Equity markets could quite easily be down 10% or more over the next few years, nothing to do with poor performance from the underlying fund managers, so your comment is pretty misleading.
Of course they could and the OP needs to decide for himself if that’s a risk he’s prepared to take or not.

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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BoRED S2upid said:
Of course they could and the OP needs to decide for himself if that’s a risk he’s prepared to take or not.
Equity markets / managers undererforming cash over a short time horizon will not lead to “The city being decimated with job seeking fund managers...”

Edited by sidicks on Wednesday 31st January 16:29

Gogoplata

1,266 posts

161 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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xeny said:
S9JTO said:
Interesting... Maybe a 50/50 split of 2 funds and cash may be sensible?
If/when the market drops, you'll do well to have found 2 funds that don't both drop.

Someone a couple of weeks ago posted a copy of the ukpersonal finance subreddit's flowchart - that may be well worth a look.
Is this it?




CastroSays

182 posts

77 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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xeny said:
S9JTO said:
II'd like to upgrade cars every 1-2 years.
This is a fantastic way of making sure you don't build up spare money, thus solving all your financial problems. /S
What he said!
Doing that for any length of time will see you squander a fortune.

Edited by CastroSays on Wednesday 31st January 19:10

Benrad

650 posts

150 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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That flow chart is bloody excellent

OP - my general advice is save more and buy a house in the best area you can. In the North that's more important than down south in terms of the likelihood of the house maintaining/gaining value I'd say. Your saving spending plan sounds sensible enough, consider replacing your car less often maybe though, you're saving well, but the car you want earlier and keep hold of it, especially if you can pick one that will depreciate less

xeny

4,317 posts

79 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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S9JTO said:
Even with a 50/50 split? I'm willing to take a risk of 10% in all honesty.
What do you mean by "risk of 10%"? Chance of 10% fall? 10% chance of losing 100% ?

xeny

4,317 posts

79 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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Gogoplata said:
Is this it?
Yes - I think if you link to the original, they keep the same URL as they update it.

NickCQ

5,392 posts

97 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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Benrad said:
OP - my general advice is save more and buy a house in the best area you can
I think this is important, insofar as you really always want to buy the most expensive house you can afford so that you don't outgrow it too soon.
With all the frictional costs of moving, you want to minimise how often you trade up the ladder, as moving too often is the best way to destroy equity.

S9JTO

Original Poster:

1,915 posts

87 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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Gogoplata said:
Is this it?

Thanks for posting this, I do recall seeing it on another thread a few weeks back.

Looking at this I would say I'm at the LISA stage (already opened, waiting until mid/late March to max it for this financial year), so that leaves me with opening a S&S ISA which is what I questioned doing. I'll definitely be looking in to doing this. As others have said, it's probably not a good idea for me to put all of my spare savings in to the market as I'll want to dip in to it fairly regularly. So, I think I need to decide on a sensible amount to invest out of my spare savings.

S9JTO

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1,915 posts

87 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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CastroSays said:
What he said!
Doing that for any length of time will see you squander a fortune.

Edited by CastroSays on Wednesday 31st January 19:10
I'm all to aware, however comparing my expenditure to my peers cars are the only thing I spend money on. Minus the modern day essentials such as phone contract, decent clothes/tech and a couple of holidays/city breaks each year.

I rarely drink, I no longer smoke and I don't do drugs so that's where I make my savings it appears...

S9JTO

Original Poster:

1,915 posts

87 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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NickCQ said:
Benrad said:
OP - my general advice is save more and buy a house in the best area you can
I think this is important, insofar as you really always want to buy the most expensive house you can afford so that you don't outgrow it too soon.
With all the frictional costs of moving, you want to minimise how often you trade up the ladder, as moving too often is the best way to destroy equity.
That is the plan! That is the one good piece of advice my parents have given me in this arena, based on their regrets as their siblings did so and made a fortune whereas they missed out!

S9JTO

Original Poster:

1,915 posts

87 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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xeny said:
What do you mean by "risk of 10%"? Chance of 10% fall? 10% chance of losing 100% ?
Sorry I should've been more clear; I'm willing to risk a 10% drop in value. As the amount in my example would be minimal - Wouldn't even exceed the free money from the government at that rate.

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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S9JTO said:
I'm all to aware, however comparing my expenditure to my peers cars are the only thing I spend money on. Minus the modern day essentials such as phone contract, decent clothes/tech and a couple of holidays/city breaks each year.

I rarely drink, I no longer smoke and I don't do drugs so that's where I make my savings it appears...
To some a car is a means of getting from A to B. To other's it's a hobby. Of course it can be an expensive hobby, but if you can afford it then 'wasting' money on cars is entirely reasonable!
driving

S9JTO

Original Poster:

1,915 posts

87 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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sidicks said:
To some a car is a means of getting from A to B. To other's it's a hobby. Of course it can be an expensive hobby, but if you can afford it then 'wasting' money on cars is entirely reasonable!
driving
Very true and I can imagine most on here can relate. I believe as long as you're smart and you do so within your limits it's perfectly fine.

I've tried to minimise the deprecation element when buying (i.e. Buying an ex-demo with ~700 miles on the clock rather than speccing a new one, saved me ~£4k!) Luckily I've only lost ~£1k in my year of ownership and I plan to do the same again if not better by buying a car which will break even or even appreciate, once my insurance allows that is! beer

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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S9JTO said:
sidicks said:
To some a car is a means of getting from A to B. To other's it's a hobby. Of course it can be an expensive hobby, but if you can afford it then 'wasting' money on cars is entirely reasonable!
driving
Very true and I can imagine most on here can relate. I believe as long as you're smart and you do so within your limits it's perfectly fine.

I've tried to minimise the deprecation element when buying (i.e. Buying an ex-demo with ~700 miles on the clock rather than speccing a new one, saved me ~£4k!) Luckily I've only lost ~£1k in my year of ownership and I plan to do the same again if not better by buying a car which will break even or even appreciate, once my insurance allows that is! beer
Agreed. Certainly it's good advice to get on the property ladder asap, before you really indulge in a car hobby!

S9JTO

Original Poster:

1,915 posts

87 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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sidicks said:
Agreed. Certainly it's good advice to get on the property ladder asap, before you really indulge in a car hobby!
Hmhhh, not necessarily 'ASAP' in my case - I don't want the responsibility and stress of my own house yet. Neither does my girlfriend.

supercommuter

2,169 posts

103 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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S9JTO said:
sidicks said:
Agreed. Certainly it's good advice to get on the property ladder asap, before you really indulge in a car hobby!
Hmhhh, not necessarily 'ASAP' in my case - I don't want the responsibility and stress of my own house yet. Neither does my girlfriend.
Not much stress to be honest. Shaved £300 off of my monthly costs buying my house and the rent would cover the mortgage 1.5 times so I can jack it all in and go live in a beach in thailand if I wanted to smile

xeny

4,317 posts

79 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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S9JTO said:
Hmhhh, not necessarily 'ASAP' in my case - I don't want the responsibility and stress of my own house yet. Neither does my girlfriend.
I've a colleague who rents. Dealing with agents appears to be far more stressful than ownership. Purchasing can be stressful I'll grant you.

bitchstewie

51,395 posts

211 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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S9JTO said:
Even with a 50/50 split? I'm willing to take a risk of 10% in all honesty.
There are some funds out there that specialise in capital preservation at the expense of returns.

However conservative, nobody will ever promise a level of risk (that I've seen).

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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bhstewie said:
There are some funds out there that specialise in capital preservation at the expense of returns.

However conservative, nobody will ever promise a level of risk (that I've seen).
You can buy volatility controlled equity funds, which adapt the equity exposure according to market conditions, but not sure if that is exactly what he meant?!