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K12beano

20,854 posts

276 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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Hoddo said:
.... 3D printing.....
Thanks for the heads up. Am quite keen on 3D technology - having been watching Dessault as well for the software aspects...

CRB14

1,493 posts

153 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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vescaegg said:
Appreciate that thanks. I will do some more research. I was just a bit bewildered is all. I was a bit naiive I think as to exactly how volatile shares (especially AIM ones) can be. From mid day yesterday to right now its gone up about 10% or something silly!

Thanks anyway.
There are so many variables which could have affected yesterdays SP. i.e shorting (we know somebody has been shorting this stock heavily), sellers locking in tax year profit, people second guessing the next wave, stop losses being triggered (almost certainly happened yesterday), negative press etc. The list goes on.

I've always been skeptical on the manipulation ideas especially on small stock. A think a lot of it depends on what the city boys are doing / talking about in pubs and general sentiment.

Shaoxter

4,081 posts

125 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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*Badger* said:
Can someone explain how QPP closed yesterday in the 33's and opened today in the 35's?

Must be out of hours trading, but how and why?
Uh, the opening price and the closing price from the day before are generally never the same.

If some significant news came through out of hours then the price at which people decide to trade at the next day will be different, regardless of whether there is any after hours trading. You'll find "gapping" happens intraday too whenever there's some news.

Skyedriver

17,880 posts

283 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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Fake7 said:
If I buy some more the price will come back down, then you can get back in again hehe
MTC rallied a bit today

You have one guess as too why

Clue: I may need some cash for a car purchase next week.....

Chris Type R

8,034 posts

250 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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*Badger* said:
Can someone explain how QPP closed yesterday in the 33's and opened today in the 35's?

Must be out of hours trading, but how and why?
What makes you say they closed in the 33s ?

Edited by Chris Type R on Friday 4th April 08:28

vescaegg

25,551 posts

168 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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So the QPP 'manipulation' I naively suggested yesterday may have been true then?

Fidelity Investments increasing their stake over 5% and obviously wanting to purchase at the lowest price possible?

http://www.quindell.com/press-releases-rns/notific...

If this cant be done willingly by big players then can someone explain why they think the price dropped so suddenly only to shoot back up yesterday (when perhaps a massive order was filled?)?

Any advice would be appreciated smile

Edited by vescaegg on Friday 4th April 08:43

Chris Type R

8,034 posts

250 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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vescaegg said:
So the QPP 'manipulation' I naively suggested yesterday may have been true then?

Fidelity Investments increasing their stake over 5% and obviously wanting to purchase at the lowest price possible?

http://www.quindell.com/press-releases-rns/notific...

If this cant be done willingly by big players then can someone explain why they think the price dropped so suddenly only to shoot back up yesterday (when perhaps a massive order was filled?)?


Any advice would be appreciated smile
The effect date is 2 Apr 2014 - coincidentally the same day we saw an opening price of 35p, a low of 32p, and a close of 35p (rounded).

On the 2nd, FMR LLC increased their holding by 40m odd shares - which by my reckoning is £13.4m (at 33.5).

Very difficult not to feel paranoid.


vescaegg

25,551 posts

168 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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Chris Type R said:
vescaegg said:
So the QPP 'manipulation' I naively suggested yesterday may have been true then?

Fidelity Investments increasing their stake over 5% and obviously wanting to purchase at the lowest price possible?

http://www.quindell.com/press-releases-rns/notific...

If this cant be done willingly by big players then can someone explain why they think the price dropped so suddenly only to shoot back up yesterday (when perhaps a massive order was filled?)?


Any advice would be appreciated smile
The effect date is 2 Apr 2014 - coincidentally the same day we saw an opening price of 35p, a low of 32p, and a close of 35p (rounded).

On the 2nd, FMR LLC increased their holding by 40m odd shares - which by my reckoning is £13.4m (at 33.5).

Very difficult not to feel paranoid.
Indeed it is!

B17NNS

18,506 posts

248 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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vescaegg said:
Indeed it is!
And back to 38.5p smile

Esseesse

8,969 posts

209 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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B17NNS said:
vescaegg said:
Indeed it is!
And back to 38.5p smile
Are you able to see these big orders go through on L2 does anybody know?

vescaegg

25,551 posts

168 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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Esseesse said:
B17NNS said:
vescaegg said:
Indeed it is!
And back to 38.5p smile
Are you able to see these big orders go through on L2 does anybody know?
A £7m buy went through about 4pm yesterday I seem to remember.

Esseesse

8,969 posts

209 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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vescaegg said:
Esseesse said:
B17NNS said:
vescaegg said:
Indeed it is!
And back to 38.5p smile
Are you able to see these big orders go through on L2 does anybody know?
A £7m buy went through about 4pm yesterday I seem to remember.
Yes, I was just wondering if you're able to see them ask they're going through, not whether one did. Does it take a while to fill a £7m order?

gaz1234

5,233 posts

220 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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Mining companies?

andrewh

457 posts

260 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Excellent day thus far for QPP, looks like some new isa funds coming in, great news regarding telematics partnership with Rac.

Shnozz

27,486 posts

272 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Well I've hit my target sell price this morning on QPP to unload 50% of my holding. Missed it last time around at it's peak but actually had a 40p target price and offloaded at 42.776.

Now watch it shoot through the roof.

Still searching out some next targets but cannot say I'm too enticed by a great deal for the minute.

Jonboy_t

5,038 posts

184 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Shnozz said:
Well I've hit my target sell price this morning on QPP to unload 50% of my holding. Missed it last time around at it's peak but actually had a 40p target price and offloaded at 42.776.

Now watch it shoot through the roof.

Still searching out some next targets but cannot say I'm too enticed by a great deal for the minute.
clap Congrats bud!!

I'm (finally) into the black with QPP now, £500 up this morning alone! I think I'm going to carry on holding on, but will be certainly updating my stop loss - seems odd thinking that this time last week I was a knats nacker off my stop loss kicking in at 30p and a pretty chunky loss!

Shnozz

27,486 posts

272 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Jonboy_t said:
clap Congrats bud!!

I'm (finally) into the black with QPP now, £500 up this morning alone! I think I'm going to carry on holding on, but will be certainly updating my stop loss - seems odd thinking that this time last week I was a knats nacker off my stop loss kicking in at 30p and a pretty chunky loss!
Ta Jonboy. The lion's share were all held in a SIPP so takes an element of both realism and excitement away as no access for a minimum of 20 years but perhaps that helps make less emotionally charged decisions. With the dip over the last fortnight I was more concerned with the paper loss shown in my ISA than I was my SIPP - and yet the figures were laughably small in the ISA and yet a fair old wedge in the SIPP.

I still think the future is rosy for QPP, and hence leaving some skin in the game. I'm just abiding by my own rules and targets and keeping that discipline with my originally targeted figure. Good luck for some decent returns for you smile

B17NNS

18,506 posts

248 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Shnozz said:
Well I've hit my target sell price this morning on QPP
Well done biggrin

B17NNS

18,506 posts

248 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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trashbat

6,006 posts

154 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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My just-enough-for-a-discount Share Centre shares (£110 buy) are now worth double what I paid. I can't help but feel it's mocking me.
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