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Jonboy_t said:
I've never really considered managed funds and things like that. Not sure why, I guess I just prefer the idea of being able to do things as and when I want. I also don't fully understand how they work, so that's probably part of it too!
If you buy into a fund or a managed account type of thing, is it just a case that the manager chooses what to buy and when to sell and takes a cut of whatever you make?
OK - quite understand; and clearly you shouldn't take my suggestion up.If you buy into a fund or a managed account type of thing, is it just a case that the manager chooses what to buy and when to sell and takes a cut of whatever you make?
What I was referring to was a Unit Trust. There are other things called Open Ended Investment Companies and the things called Investment Trusts.
There's all sorts of strict rules about how they're set up and operated. They're Regulated (if you see something that's described as an Unregulated Collective or similar just run for the hills unless you really, really understand what you're doing!). They have various features and "stuff" to protect the average Joe Investor on the street.
They are all forms of Pooled Funds - get a load of people together who all want to invest in, say, Outer Mongolia. Put all the money together, pay some Chappies to manage the whole shebang and Bob's your transvestite Auntie.....
K12beano said:
Jonboy_t said:
I've never really considered managed funds and things like that. Not sure why, I guess I just prefer the idea of being able to do things as and when I want. I also don't fully understand how they work, so that's probably part of it too!
If you buy into a fund or a managed account type of thing, is it just a case that the manager chooses what to buy and when to sell and takes a cut of whatever you make?
OK - quite understand; and clearly you shouldn't take my suggestion up.If you buy into a fund or a managed account type of thing, is it just a case that the manager chooses what to buy and when to sell and takes a cut of whatever you make?
What I was referring to was a Unit Trust. There are other things called Open Ended Investment Companies and the things called Investment Trusts.
There's all sorts of strict rules about how they're set up and operated. They're Regulated (if you see something that's described as an Unregulated Collective or similar just run for the hills unless you really, really understand what you're doing!). They have various features and "stuff" to protect the average Joe Investor on the street.
They are all forms of Pooled Funds - get a load of people together who all want to invest in, say, Outer Mongolia. Put all the money together, pay some Chappies to manage the whole shebang and Bob's your transvestite Auntie.....
Not publicly traded...but you can invest in Torch Apparel (as seen on Dragon's Den) through Seedrs if you are quick (as it is currently in overfunding).
I've put a few thousand in - seems like a really nice product and a fair valuation...
I've put a few thousand in - seems like a really nice product and a fair valuation...
twinturboz said:
Took a position in GTAT, like the set up but need to see some volume in the stock today, looking for around $21 ish in the next few weeks.
I'm surprised the shares haven't move up more with all the Apple product talk, but wonder how much of a premium is already built in to an assumption that the screens will be in the iphone6?traxx said:
I'm surprised the shares haven't move up more with all the Apple product talk, but wonder how much of a premium is already built in to an assumption that the screens will be in the iphone6?
Think it's been shown that the screen (certainly on the smaller of the two being released) is not sapphire. The larger model could be as it may be at a premium price point. Apple have been rumoured to have shipped a whole load of sapphire screens to china for manufacturing on something though.
Amazing to consider that if you bought apple a year ago (after it had risen so much over the years) you would have still doubled your money today near enough!
Edited by vescaegg on Tuesday 26th August 21:36
StangGT said:
So... I've got £5,000 sitting looking for a home at the moment.
Have to say I'm a bit stumped. Any suggestions? I was after maybe £2,500 into a blue chip, and the other £2,500 into a tiddler
thoughts?
If you are a UK tax payer certainly consider looking into EIS and SEIS investing - massive benefits and tax breaks at the moment.Have to say I'm a bit stumped. Any suggestions? I was after maybe £2,500 into a blue chip, and the other £2,500 into a tiddler
thoughts?
It is high risk but the potential upside and tax reliefs (both when you buy and when you come to sell) make it worthwhile IMO.
I invest through Seedrs (see my profile).
vescaegg said:
I wonder if they will fall like Apple always does after their yearly product launches (9th September this year)?
Not sure, from reports sapphire isn't expected in the iPhones and with GTAT now at approx 40% of the float short, any good news could cause a short squeeze weather that be earnings to come or any suprises from the Apple announcement. Either way it's a speculative play.As for Apple wouldn't suprise me if we didn't get the usual sell the news on the announcement could be totally wrong but I think there would be enough buyers willing to step in on a dip that it would be pretty short lived.
The recent 10 trading sessions in Apple have been green can't remember Apple doing that in a long time, suspect Apple themselves may have been buying back stock but will have to wait till next earnings to find out if that's the case or not.
On an unrelated note anyone used bullionvault.com? Thinking of diversifying a bit and buying some physical gold.
Edited by twinturboz on Wednesday 27th August 18:15
gregf40 said:
If you are a UK tax payer certainly consider looking into EIS and SEIS investing - massive benefits and tax breaks at the moment.
It is high risk but the potential upside and tax reliefs (both when you buy and when you come to sell) make it worthwhile IMO.
I invest through Seedrs (see my profile).
Already done this mate! Thanks!It is high risk but the potential upside and tax reliefs (both when you buy and when you come to sell) make it worthwhile IMO.
I invest through Seedrs (see my profile).
StangGT said:
So... I've got £5,000 sitting looking for a home at the moment.
Have to say I'm a bit stumped. Any suggestions? I was after maybe £2,500 into a blue chip, and the other £2,500 into a tiddler
thoughts?
Confused and don't know where to begin.Have to say I'm a bit stumped. Any suggestions? I was after maybe £2,500 into a blue chip, and the other £2,500 into a tiddler
thoughts?
One way is to find a financial website with an "X ray" function.
I can put in the funds I own and it will tell me what shares I own because I own these funds. including my exposure in Dollars to each individual share.
In it's self not all that useful, but if you put a couple of funds that have performed consistently well over the past few years you will start to see shares that are held by both funds. ie. have been selected as good companies by two sets of analysts, add a third fund and see if they like that company too.
If you look at small cap funds and look for fund holdings around 2% you can be fairly sure the fund manager isn't going to chuck 2% at something that is distressed, there is a decent chance the company has a future.
Once you have a couple or prospective victims you do still need to have a gander at the key stats but it's a start.
Or I have really nice 316 stainless pin I can lend you
Don't use index funds for obvious reasons.
I use the X ray function at Morningstar in the US, I don't think there is UK version.
Edited by jeff m2 on Wednesday 27th August 19:50
jeff m2 said:
Confused and don't know where to begin.
One way is to find a financial website with an "X ray" function.
I can put in the funds I own and it will tell me what shares I own because I own these funds. including my exposure in Dollars to each individual share.
In it's self not all that useful, but if you put a couple of funds that have performed consistently well over the past few years you will start to see shares that are held by both funds. ie. have been selected as good companies by two sets of analysts, add a third fund and see if they like that company too.
If you look at small cap funds and look for fund holdings around 2% you can be fairly sure the fund manager isn't going to chuck 2% at something that is distressed, there is a decent chance the company has a future.
Once you have a couple or prospective victims you do still need to have a gander at the key stats but it's a start.
Or I have really nice 316 stainless pin I can lend you
Don't use index funds for obvious reasons.
I use the X ray function at Morningstar in the US, I don't think there is UK version.
Excellent stuff... Thanks!One way is to find a financial website with an "X ray" function.
I can put in the funds I own and it will tell me what shares I own because I own these funds. including my exposure in Dollars to each individual share.
In it's self not all that useful, but if you put a couple of funds that have performed consistently well over the past few years you will start to see shares that are held by both funds. ie. have been selected as good companies by two sets of analysts, add a third fund and see if they like that company too.
If you look at small cap funds and look for fund holdings around 2% you can be fairly sure the fund manager isn't going to chuck 2% at something that is distressed, there is a decent chance the company has a future.
Once you have a couple or prospective victims you do still need to have a gander at the key stats but it's a start.
Or I have really nice 316 stainless pin I can lend you
Don't use index funds for obvious reasons.
I use the X ray function at Morningstar in the US, I don't think there is UK version.
Edited by jeff m2 on Wednesday 27th August 19:50
This afternoon, I put a few quid into Polaris industries, for no reason other than I frikkin love the new Indian bikes. Well, this is pistonheads!
StangGT said:
gregf40 said:
If you are a UK tax payer certainly consider looking into EIS and SEIS investing - massive benefits and tax breaks at the moment.
It is high risk but the potential upside and tax reliefs (both when you buy and when you come to sell) make it worthwhile IMO.
I invest through Seedrs (see my profile).
Already done this mate! Thanks!It is high risk but the potential upside and tax reliefs (both when you buy and when you come to sell) make it worthwhile IMO.
I invest through Seedrs (see my profile).
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