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Condi said:
Depends if you're trading or investing. As a trader, I would agree that you've not lost it until you close your position. Running loss making positions while believing that it will come back your way is part of what we do, and a very stressful part at that. If you're investing and worried about net value then yes, you've lost it.
I'd argue that it's just as much a loss at that moment in time - so is anything that you can't get the same amount of money back out of right now should you have to - but your appetite for risk and thus loss inherently has to be very different in trading otherwise you'd never get anywhere. Nonetheless surely you still have to think quite deeply about the psychology of it and set yourself some form of hard limit. You can't just wish away a disastrous position.I don't do leveraged trading so my knowledge is limited, but is there not also a subtle difference - when you open a position, you do so with a set of parameters that may be unique to that time (e.g. the borrowing cost) and not necessary replicable in future? When you buy shares straight and the price falls, unless we're talking huge volume and low liquidity, you will generally always be able to buy the same amount at that lower price without any punitive effect.
There was a piece in the Sunday Times about how they've been talking to hedge funds about cash, implying that the banks have called it a day with them.
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/business/Finan... (paywall, I don't have access)
What do we think will happen next? A normal company and RT would have resigned a long time ago, but it's so bent that I can't see it happening until the moment it actually suits him. Meanwhile, I wonder what Cenkos will do. If they go, it gets suspended.
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/business/Finan... (paywall, I don't have access)
What do we think will happen next? A normal company and RT would have resigned a long time ago, but it's so bent that I can't see it happening until the moment it actually suits him. Meanwhile, I wonder what Cenkos will do. If they go, it gets suspended.
caduceus said:
trashbat said:
eah, and you could have bought into RRL now at this bargain rate with the money you had in the first place. Except you've lost it.
Are you retarded? I haven't sold. So how have I lost it exactly? It's paper loss and nothing more. Honestly.... QPP...wow.
In other news, AAPL looking good, just signed a deal to make app store payments much easier in China.
Also apparently signed a deal with Samsung to start manufacturing future chips, might be worth looking into Samsung based on this?
Very flat day for BP (and oil really), brent still below $80, down again today.
In other news, AAPL looking good, just signed a deal to make app store payments much easier in China.
Also apparently signed a deal with Samsung to start manufacturing future chips, might be worth looking into Samsung based on this?
Very flat day for BP (and oil really), brent still below $80, down again today.
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