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K12beano

20,854 posts

275 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Should have (yeah - that classic lament)...... anyway, should have bought some CAKE when I first thought about it at the back end of last year. Did research, liked the look, procrastinated.... Would have been able to have it - and eat it....now!

walm

10,609 posts

202 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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isee said:
So, bought Yandex off the back of a consensus buy by all the banks and research companies.
You know what sometimes drives stock price performance? Analysts changing their ratings.
Out of interest, what did you think the likely next change of opinion would be?? wink

isee

3,713 posts

183 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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walm said:
You know what sometimes drives stock price performance? Analysts changing their ratings.
Out of interest, what did you think the likely next change of opinion would be?? wink
Well, considering they missed expectations the last time round and that it is a backward looking indicator, I think the next rating will be largely irrelevant to the price, due to Yandex (with a beta of 2.45), likely posting better results, because those will be based on the Russian market performance of 2015, rather than the disastrous end of 2014, which is why the consensus is such a strong buy I suppose. I am not saying it was a bad investment, if it was, I would have dumped it and moved on. I am just saying it wasn't as good quality as my self-researched and picked ones, but I needed some exposure to emerging markets, and Russia in particular smile

I will however, be very interested to hear why you think it is a sell or where I have gone wrong (if indeed you do). I am always happy to hear your and Donkeyapple's opinion on financial matters.

walm

10,609 posts

202 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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isee said:
I will however, be very interested to hear why you think it is a sell or where I have gone wrong (if indeed you do). I am always happy to hear your and Donkeyapple's opinion on financial matters.
No view on Yandex, just my very broad-brush investment theses usually rely on three main pillars: fundamentals/sentiment/valuation.

I have no doubt the fundamentals are good.
But... everyone knows that - hence sentiment is heavily stacked against you in this case.
Although it isn't as bad as you make out 15 buys, 7 holds, 2 sells.
Still positive for sure but not 100%.
It's a ranking of 4.08 I think where anything over 4 (rule-of-thumb) has strongly positive sentiment from the analyst community.
(It's calculated as a weighted average: 5 for a buy, 3 for a hold and 2 for a sell IIRC.)

Valuation for stocks like these don't really make a huge difference IMHO - earnings momentum trumps all.
So as long as you are confident that they will keep beating and raising guidance then all-else-equal it will be fine.

One thing to note though with these dollar stocks that actually earn in a different currency is that the street is often very slow to catch up on current spot FX so make sure you keep that up to date.

isee

3,713 posts

183 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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walm said:
One thing to note though with these dollar stocks that actually earn in a different currency is that the street is often very slow to catch up on current spot FX so make sure you keep that up to date.
Thanks, you actually affirmed my initial decision with the bit up to the quoted part.

I hadn't considered the FX at the time of purchase and it's an extremely valid point that I am now kicking myself for not having thought about. Though I am neutral to bearish USD/RUB and neutral to ever so slightly bullish oil, which if true is only likely to increase the Yandex NV dollar value anyway.

red_slr

17,223 posts

189 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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red_slr said:
EZJ has further to fall or do we think this is it?
Down another 1.5% today..

g4ry13

16,978 posts

255 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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isee said:
So, bought Yandex off the back of a consensus buy by all the banks and research companies. The one stock I didn't do my own research on (well only cursory) and so far it's 4.13% down. All my other single stock investments this year were almost immediately positive. Still holding on to it though, think Russia might post some further gains this year.
4%! rofl I wish some of my stocks were only down 4%. That's nothing more than a daily move.

isee

3,713 posts

183 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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g4ry13 said:
4%! rofl I wish some of my stocks were only down 4%. That's nothing more than a daily move.
Looking back at it, perhaps I am being a bit ungrateful smile

illmonkey

18,193 posts

198 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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isee

3,713 posts

183 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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illmonkey said:
Thank you, shorted.

edit: and stopped out. that was my friday gambling. smile

Edited by isee on Friday 22 May 11:43

Botteh

73 posts

174 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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isee said:
Thank you, shorted.
I hope you researched. A british based Company awarded a license for a Strategic Russian Mineral deposit...

illmonkey

18,193 posts

198 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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Hovering around 100% now.

isee

3,713 posts

183 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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Botteh said:
I hope you researched. A british based Company awarded a license for a Strategic Russian Mineral deposit...
Nah, was a gamble. Was betting on the price correcting after the news before possibly carrying on upwards. But it went up more than I allowed for so am oot.

twinturboz

1,278 posts

178 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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This shake shak stock, looks like a carbon copy of GPRO. Tried to get short this morning but seems none available, even IG wouldn't let me get short.

StangGT

3,925 posts

269 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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Has anyone got any views on Rolls Royce? I've got some but starting to wonder if it's time to sell a few.
I'm certainly no expert, but the broker views seem to point towards sell as far as I can see...

Ukipdefect

109 posts

108 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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Vod done well. Tesco slowly dying

fido

16,796 posts

255 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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StangGT said:
Has anyone got any views on Rolls Royce? I've got some but starting to wonder if it's time to sell a few.
I'm thinking of shorting - seems to be at the top of its cycle - unless they announce some new defence spending ..

twinturboz

1,278 posts

178 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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Think I'm going to invest in a punching bag, this market chop is driving me crazy. Can we just have a 15% correction get it over with or alternatively break out to the upside already, this going nowhere for months is just frustrating.

StangGT

3,925 posts

269 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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So, the FTSE100 has dipped below 6800... should I be worried? time to sell sell sell, or just a wee blip?


bad company

18,561 posts

266 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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StangGT said:
So, the FTSE100 has dipped below 6800... should I be worried? time to sell sell sell, or just a wee blip?

As always it depends how much time you have. Inevitably the FTSE will recover to 7000+. When will that happen?????
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