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shopper150 said:
Surely there are opportunities to make some money in the run up to the Brexit referendum?!
How are you guys playing the markets?
If the polls are correct and we're leaving would gold not be a good bet? $1284/oz isn't low historically but in times of uncertainty investors tend to favour commodities don't they so that could push the price up slightly and even if it doesn't the £ will fall against the $. $1284=£895 today, if the £ falls by say 5c that would make it £930/oz, 10c £965/oz. You could of course just buy currency or a safe US stock for the sake effect. How are you guys playing the markets?
Personally I'm going to stay away from everything until the result is known. It's too close to call and could easily go the other way.
I mentioned this a week or so ago but Interserve shares are down to £2.90 after a hefty fine on a project/economy etc , for the past 6yrs or so Iv more than doubled my money through there 3yr share save scheme,apart from this year but it's money back .
The shares nearly hit £7.50 this time last year and a £900 investment returned £2200
Gold ? how would you go about buying and selling ?
The shares nearly hit £7.50 this time last year and a £900 investment returned £2200
Gold ? how would you go about buying and selling ?
g4ry13 said:
Buy gold related shares? CFD / spread bet the Gold price? Buy a block of the stuff?
Take your pick...
I bought my daughter a few gram of those little investment bars when she was born along with some silver coins, I was in Ramsdens changing currency and I asked out of curiosity about the gold, they said they don't buy 24ct. What's all that about ?Take your pick...
Buy a little here n there in small amounts s a long term investment for her, but it's currently about £35-£40 for 1gram which isn't ideal,
PapaJohns said:
I bought my daughter a few gram of those little investment bars when she was born along with some silver coins, I was in Ramsdens changing currency and I asked out of curiosity about the gold, they said they don't buy 24ct. What's all that about ?
Buy a little here n there in small amounts s a long term investment for her, but it's currently about £35-£40 for 1gram which isn't ideal,
Buying 1g / small bars is a hopelessly inefficient way of buying gold - you pay a huge premium compared to buying larger bars. From memory it starts to become sensible from 10g upwardsBuy a little here n there in small amounts s a long term investment for her, but it's currently about £35-£40 for 1gram which isn't ideal,
djc206 said:
Personally I'm going to stay away from everything until the result is known. It's too close to call and could easily go the other way.
Me too! Sold everything a couple of weeks ago and bought bonds/gilts and cash. Think Friday could be manic. I'll be reinvesting no matter what the outcome, and so will everyone else. The uncertainty is affecting the market more than the out vote would, IMO, so if we stay in, people buy because confidence looks up. If we come out, currency weakens, our market looks more attractive, so people buy in.
Come to think of it, maybe i'll reinvest on Thursday instead.
Tesla makes offer for Solarcity. Can't be many happy Telsa shareholders after that news, seems very sketchy.
Wonder if the plan is to engineer a squeeze in SCTY to enable Musk to get out before then having the deal vetoed by Tesla shareholders.
Wonder if the plan is to engineer a squeeze in SCTY to enable Musk to get out before then having the deal vetoed by Tesla shareholders.
Edited by twinturboz on Tuesday 21st June 22:38
egomeister said:
PapaJohns said:
I bought my daughter a few gram of those little investment bars when she was born along with some silver coins, I was in Ramsdens changing currency and I asked out of curiosity about the gold, they said they don't buy 24ct. What's all that about ?
Buy a little here n there in small amounts s a long term investment for her, but it's currently about £35-£40 for 1gram which isn't ideal,
Buying 1g / small bars is a hopelessly inefficient way of buying gold - you pay a huge premium compared to buying larger bars. From memory it starts to become sensible from 10g upwardsBuy a little here n there in small amounts s a long term investment for her, but it's currently about £35-£40 for 1gram which isn't ideal,
M3Driver said:
So am I better to try and load up on Tesla shares when the price dips upon US market opening, take advantage of the discount, or try to buy SCTY shares in the hope that they'll be converted to TSLA at a decent rate at some point?
WTF?You are talking about a special-sit risk-arb trade.
Trust me - unless you have a deep deep insight into deal risk and acceptable IRR spreads, it won't work.
If you like TSLA buy the stock (there is no "discount" - the price is the price).
There is still a decent chance that shareholders will vote down the SCTY deal which means you would end up with a bunch of SCTY (that you appear not to want) at a huge drop from the open price today.
walm said:
M3Driver said:
If you like TSLA buy the stock (there is no "discount" - the price is the price).
There is still a decent chance that shareholders will vote down the SCTY deal which means you would end up with a bunch of SCTY (that you appear not to want) at a huge drop from the open price today.
As usual just when you think Telsa can't get any more bizarre this happens There is still a decent chance that shareholders will vote down the SCTY deal which means you would end up with a bunch of SCTY (that you appear not to want) at a huge drop from the open price today.
How can one public company make a bid for another public company when they share the same main Directors and shareholders?
TSLA is a high growth company with a projected high return on capital, Solar is more like a utility - and until yesterday its Bonds were trading like it was bust
Why do the two firms even appeal to the same type of investor other than both having the usual Musk hype
traxx said:
As usual just when you think Telsa can't get any more bizarre this happens.
How can one public company make a bid for another public company when they share the same main Directors and shareholders?
TSLA is a high growth company with a projected high return on capital, Solar is more like a utility - and until yesterday its Bonds were trading like it was bust
Why do the two firms even appeal to the same type of investor other than both having the usual Musk hype
There is nothing stopping one company buying another as long as you disclose the conflict of interest - and in this case, Musk's votes don't count.How can one public company make a bid for another public company when they share the same main Directors and shareholders?
TSLA is a high growth company with a projected high return on capital, Solar is more like a utility - and until yesterday its Bonds were trading like it was bust
Why do the two firms even appeal to the same type of investor other than both having the usual Musk hype
The shareholders must vote by a majority of the non-Musk holders.
I think that is fairly standard when these things happen.
The two companies won't appeal to the same type of investor. But a TSLA share is still predominantly Tesla ($29bn mkt cap vs. $2bn mkt cap at SCTY).
You are absolutely right though - this is bizarre.
No synergies at all.
As far as I can tell it is just the cheapest way for Musk to recapitalise SCTY.
Now if SCTY needs more cash it can just print some TSLA paper or tap into the Model 3 deposits of course!
PapaJohns said:
I mentioned this a week or so ago but Interserve shares are down to £2.90 after a hefty fine on a project/economy etc , for the past 6yrs or so Iv more than doubled my money through there 3yr share save scheme,apart from this year but it's money back .
The shares nearly hit £7.50 this time last year and a £900 investment returned £2200
Gold ? how would you go about buying and selling ?
Buy shares in a gold miner, eg Rangold. Good correlation with the price of gold. The shares nearly hit £7.50 this time last year and a £900 investment returned £2200
Gold ? how would you go about buying and selling ?
bad company said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
Well, FTSE looks remarkably cheerful today!
Wonder whether on Friday it'll be sunning itself at Goodwood Festival of Speed or sinking into the mud at Glastonbury....
Dunno but I'm not buying again until next week. I haven't sold any of my holdings tho.Wonder whether on Friday it'll be sunning itself at Goodwood Festival of Speed or sinking into the mud at Glastonbury....
One thing I do know is that anyone who has been buying the market steadily through the last 10 to 15 years has made a tidy wedge.
red_slr said:
egomeister said:
PapaJohns said:
I bought my daughter a few gram of those little investment bars when she was born along with some silver coins, I was in Ramsdens changing currency and I asked out of curiosity about the gold, they said they don't buy 24ct. What's all that about ?
Buy a little here n there in small amounts s a long term investment for her, but it's currently about £35-£40 for 1gram which isn't ideal,
Buying 1g / small bars is a hopelessly inefficient way of buying gold - you pay a huge premium compared to buying larger bars. From memory it starts to become sensible from 10g upwardsBuy a little here n there in small amounts s a long term investment for her, but it's currently about £35-£40 for 1gram which isn't ideal,
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