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Hamsterdam said:
FredClogs said:
MTFB, news coming soon, price is beginning to bubble up, if news is good on progress this share is.going to go bananas ot big pharma will step in and buy it up, iclapram is a game changing antibiotic.
'News coming soon' - this based on any info?http://hardmanandco.com/docs/default-source/compan...
They've also just changed the registered address of the company which means (in my hopeful head) the seniors have had enough of sitting at Office World cheap stuff and been brave enough to go out and through some cash at top of the range Ikea swivel chairs in a West London location due to the optimism the trials are encouraging.
None of this is investment advice and shouldn't be mistaken for such.
TSLA at all time high and now valued at more than Ford. They delivered circa 75,000 cars last year. How many did ford shift?
I'm a fan of the company but surely this is madness? Future potential obviously big, but as big as ford?
I got out at about 240 a couple years ago and thought I was lucky. Perhaps not.
I'm a fan of the company but surely this is madness? Future potential obviously big, but as big as ford?
I got out at about 240 a couple years ago and thought I was lucky. Perhaps not.
FredClogs said:
WindyCommon said:
FredClogs said:
MTFB, news coming soon...
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I'm a little more out of the market currently. Had a drugs company which I did well on, although didn't make the most I (theoretically) could have made. However it then dropped loads, before a 15% bounce today. I have a suspicion it might be a bounce to get all those who sold out on the way down to panic buy quickly back in though. Also since the OSE is heavily oil influenced I think there is more downside than upside, hence being out of some of the oil stuff I had earlier. Still have some though, and keeping up regular funds saving each month for the longer term saving.
p1stonhead said:
TSLA at all time high and now valued at more than Ford. They delivered circa 75,000 cars last year. How many did ford shift?
I'm a fan of the company but surely this is madness? Future potential obviously big, but as big as ford?
I got out at about 240 a couple years ago and thought I was lucky. Perhaps not.
Fundamentals are out the window. Look at these valuations in things like snapchat. Amazing is a joke. It can never earn enough to justify its valuation. Not ever. Back a few years in the UK remember AO listing. I posted here saying ridiculous value. I got shouted down by resident 'experts'. The stock is 1/3rd of listing price! I'm a fan of the company but surely this is madness? Future potential obviously big, but as big as ford?
I got out at about 240 a couple years ago and thought I was lucky. Perhaps not.
I also got told persimmon was a dog when it tanked to 13 after Brexit. Now 21 and yielding 7%.
Tesla will never make a penny. Musk is a bit of a con man in my book after his family buyout. It's a takeover punt. Idiots think the world will adopt the tech. It wont
Burwood said:
Fundamentals are out the window. Look at these valuations in things like snapchat. Amazing is a joke. It can never earn enough to justify its valuation. Not ever. Back a few years in the UK remember AO listing. I posted here saying ridiculous value. I got shouted down by resident 'experts'. The stock is 1/3rd of listing price!
I also got told persimmon was a dog when it tanked to 13 after Brexit. Now 21 and yielding 7%.
Tesla will never make a penny. Musk is a bit of a con man in my book after his family buyout. It's a takeover punt. Idiots think the world will adopt the tech. It wont
They're not a car company . They're an AI & Clean Energy company, which are undoubtedly two of the biggest upcoming industries. That's why they're valued this high, same goes for Amazon with logistics and AI.I also got told persimmon was a dog when it tanked to 13 after Brexit. Now 21 and yielding 7%.
Tesla will never make a penny. Musk is a bit of a con man in my book after his family buyout. It's a takeover punt. Idiots think the world will adopt the tech. It wont
red_slr said:
IMG? Anyone tempted to buy?
You'd have to be pretty brave or know something about what that company have got planned for the future to invest I think, their survival strategy seems to revolve around getting Apple into court - I'm talking off the top of my head here but that doesn't on the face of it look like a wise move. It's going to be volatile for a while though, if you've got the stomach to ride it then fair play.Chris1712 said:
Burwood said:
Fundamentals are out the window. Look at these valuations in things like snapchat. Amazing is a joke. It can never earn enough to justify its valuation. Not ever. Back a few years in the UK remember AO listing. I posted here saying ridiculous value. I got shouted down by resident 'experts'. The stock is 1/3rd of listing price!
I also got told persimmon was a dog when it tanked to 13 after Brexit. Now 21 and yielding 7%.
Tesla will never make a penny. Musk is a bit of a con man in my book after his family buyout. It's a takeover punt. Idiots think the world will adopt the tech. It wont
They're not a car company . They're an AI & Clean Energy company, which are undoubtedly two of the biggest upcoming industries. That's why they're valued this high, same goes for Amazon with logistics and AI.I also got told persimmon was a dog when it tanked to 13 after Brexit. Now 21 and yielding 7%.
Tesla will never make a penny. Musk is a bit of a con man in my book after his family buyout. It's a takeover punt. Idiots think the world will adopt the tech. It wont
Burwood said:
Jeez that clarifies it then. AI and logistics. And energy. You know who conjured that up don't you. Analysts-to say oh no lets give them a PE of 1000 because they aren't car companies. I liked Amazons diaper disaster. What did that cost them, a billion? It means nothing though, right?
I don't know how you do it, nor would I do it, but if you're really convinced you can put your money where your mouth is on this one.Personally I see more and more Tesla driving around and am increasingly of the view that EVs have a future. Musk, his investors (including the US government) and the IP he holds have a significant jump on other players in the market and whilst he appears to be some kind of grandstanding Tony Stark wannabee, the thing with Australia shows just how able he is to capture attention and his track record shows close to zero failure, I wouldn't bet against his success at this point - but you can.
FredClogs said:
Burwood said:
Jeez that clarifies it then. AI and logistics. And energy. You know who conjured that up don't you. Analysts-to say oh no lets give them a PE of 1000 because they aren't car companies. I liked Amazons diaper disaster. What did that cost them, a billion? It means nothing though, right?
I don't know how you do it, nor would I do it, but if you're really convinced you can put your money where your mouth is on this one.Personally I see more and more Tesla driving around and am increasingly of the view that EVs have a future. Musk, his investors (including the US government) and the IP he holds have a significant jump on other players in the market and whilst he appears to be some kind of grandstanding Tony Stark wannabee, the thing with Australia shows just how able he is to capture attention and his track record shows close to zero failure, I wouldn't bet against his success at this point - but you can.
Burwood said:
FredClogs said:
Burwood said:
Jeez that clarifies it then. AI and logistics. And energy. You know who conjured that up don't you. Analysts-to say oh no lets give them a PE of 1000 because they aren't car companies. I liked Amazons diaper disaster. What did that cost them, a billion? It means nothing though, right?
I don't know how you do it, nor would I do it, but if you're really convinced you can put your money where your mouth is on this one.Personally I see more and more Tesla driving around and am increasingly of the view that EVs have a future. Musk, his investors (including the US government) and the IP he holds have a significant jump on other players in the market and whilst he appears to be some kind of grandstanding Tony Stark wannabee, the thing with Australia shows just how able he is to capture attention and his track record shows close to zero failure, I wouldn't bet against his success at this point - but you can.
If not why not if its a certainty in your opinion?
red_slr said:
IMG? Anyone tempted to buy?
I bought some yesterday at 87p, set an autosell at 110p which got triggered this morning. Looks like i may have set it a bit low but it was too risky for anything other than a quick punt on the bounce imo.Even with Apples revenues coming in they were making a loss so that doesn't fill me with much confidence long term.
Will be interesting to see how it plays out though.
p1stonhead said:
Burwood said:
FredClogs said:
Burwood said:
Jeez that clarifies it then. AI and logistics. And energy. You know who conjured that up don't you. Analysts-to say oh no lets give them a PE of 1000 because they aren't car companies. I liked Amazons diaper disaster. What did that cost them, a billion? It means nothing though, right?
I don't know how you do it, nor would I do it, but if you're really convinced you can put your money where your mouth is on this one.Personally I see more and more Tesla driving around and am increasingly of the view that EVs have a future. Musk, his investors (including the US government) and the IP he holds have a significant jump on other players in the market and whilst he appears to be some kind of grandstanding Tony Stark wannabee, the thing with Australia shows just how able he is to capture attention and his track record shows close to zero failure, I wouldn't bet against his success at this point - but you can.
If not why not if its a certainty in your opinion?
R8Steve said:
red_slr said:
IMG? Anyone tempted to buy?
I bought some yesterday at 87p, set an autosell at 110p which got triggered this morning. Looks like i may have set it a bit low but it was too risky for anything other than a quick punt on the bounce imo.Even with Apples revenues coming in they were making a loss so that doesn't fill me with much confidence long term.
Will be interesting to see how it plays out though.
Burwood said:
p1stonhead said:
Burwood said:
FredClogs said:
Burwood said:
Jeez that clarifies it then. AI and logistics. And energy. You know who conjured that up don't you. Analysts-to say oh no lets give them a PE of 1000 because they aren't car companies. I liked Amazons diaper disaster. What did that cost them, a billion? It means nothing though, right?
I don't know how you do it, nor would I do it, but if you're really convinced you can put your money where your mouth is on this one.Personally I see more and more Tesla driving around and am increasingly of the view that EVs have a future. Musk, his investors (including the US government) and the IP he holds have a significant jump on other players in the market and whilst he appears to be some kind of grandstanding Tony Stark wannabee, the thing with Australia shows just how able he is to capture attention and his track record shows close to zero failure, I wouldn't bet against his success at this point - but you can.
If not why not if its a certainty in your opinion?
Isn't investing all about what your opinion tells you based on research? If yours tells you they are hugely overvalued and will soon crash then shorting seems like the logical way forward no?
why not make a few quid?
twinturboz said:
Tesla still has 35% of float short, could start to get real painful for shorts once that $300 cracks.
What does that mean? That 35% of the company shares are out on loan - presumably shorted? 35%! And the share price is still going up? Blimey Charlie.Presumably on any dips now they'll be huge short squeezes as they look to reduce their losses by whatever tiny margin they can - practically guaranteeing that the price is only going one way.
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