Mortgage - pay off or not?

Mortgage - pay off or not?

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Flip Martian

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19,715 posts

191 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Is there any advantage (credit rating, for example) in keeping a mortgage? I currently pay about £700 a month and have about 22 years left on mine but in a few months will be in a position to pay it off (my fiancee is selling her house and moving into mine).

Which puts me in a great position; I know how lucky I am. Just wondering if its worth our while to leave a nominal sum to pay off to keep the mortgage open?

Any opinions welcome, please?

GarryA

4,700 posts

165 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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I'm paying mine off as fast as I can but whilst its a good rate I'll keep it at 1k or summin so I can lend myself money at a good rate.

Wacky Racer

38,198 posts

248 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Just pay it off. Don't even think about it.

bigandclever

13,803 posts

239 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Flip Martian said:
in a few months will be in a position to pay it off (my fiancee is selling her house and moving into mine).
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Any opinions welcome, please?
Please get the paperwork sorted. None of this "we're in love, we'll never split up" bks smile

Deva Link

26,934 posts

246 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Is she really going to give you all her money to pay off your mortgage? That's brave of her.

Vixpy1

42,625 posts

265 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Why does she not keep her house and rent it out, pays her mortgage and helps with yours.

Flip Martian

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19,715 posts

191 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Looked at renting it out but her house is owned outright and she just wants rid - fresh start up up here.

Yes, the paperwork will be sorted out - been round the block a few times so not naive by any stretch. And no, she's not giving me her money, she's buying a share of my house. Bit of a difference. smile

Nice But Dim

458 posts

208 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Sort out the paperwork wrt your fiancé and pay off the debt

Flip Martian

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19,715 posts

191 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Nice But Dim said:
Sort out the paperwork wrt your fiancé and pay off the debt
Cheers. I'm erring towards that - not borrowing money for the foreseeable future (not planning to anyway).

Flip Martian

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19,715 posts

191 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Even when "you" decide you are equity rich and need a bigger better house?
Don't need a bigger house - no kids now or on the horizon and I love the house and area I'm in. Plenty of space, nice village, the only reason I'd move (assuming we don't split up) is if they change the use of the field behind the house to "residential" from "agricultural".

Manks

26,350 posts

223 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Flip Martian said:
Is there any advantage (credit rating, for example) in keeping a mortgage? I currently pay about £700 a month and have about 22 years left on mine but in a few months will be in a position to pay it off (my fiancee is selling her house and moving into mine).

Which puts me in a great position; I know how lucky I am. Just wondering if its worth our while to leave a nominal sum to pay off to keep the mortgage open?

Any opinions welcome, please?
Keep a small mortgage I'd say. If you want to raise another mortgage for any reason you'll do better if you have a recent mortgage payment history.




bigandclever

13,803 posts

239 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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I think Soovy and Tonker's posts have finally got to me. All I can hear is "It's my house, I like it, I like the area, I'll only move when I want to, there're no plans for kids, my fiancée is going to pay off the 22 year's worth of mortgage, it'll be fine".

I do apologise smile

Deva Link

26,934 posts

246 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Flip Martian said:
(assuming we don't split up)
..so you're thinking about it then? wink

Flip Martian

Original Poster:

19,715 posts

191 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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Not considering it, no! But like I said, I'm not naive either.

Manks said:
Keep a small mortgage I'd say. If you want to raise another mortgage for any reason you'll do better if you have a recent mortgage payment history.
That may well make sense too - any repairs or changes to the house might be better done that way. Thanks.

louiebaby

10,651 posts

192 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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For me, everything I'm working towards is having a house in a village I like completely paid off and free of all other debt.

With only the normal monthly running cots of council tax, utilities and such like, you must gain a massive amount of freedom from being tied to a job you dislike.

Do it, but each of you should pay the full amount you can into an ISA for any unexpected maintenance in replacement of a mortgage.

You're in a very enviable position in my opinion, for what it's worth...

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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Great position to be in - well done.

Does your mortgage have any early redemption charges? If so calculate if you are better off paying it off and paying the early redemption charge OR paying the monthly installments until there is n early redemption charge.

Secondly is your mortgage an Offset? If so I'd put all the cash into the savings pot linkdto the account so your fully offset. Then just leave it every month for the next 22 years a DD will reduce that pot down. The benefit is IF you need cash for whatever reason in the future you will have instant access to it and no fees except the prevailing offset mortgage interest rate to pay. Think - buying a replacement car this will be the cheapest way to finance it, extension, new kitchen (you will need 1 or 2 refits in 22 years) ditto bathroom, new roof, rewire of house, etc.


As I have an Offset I'd do my second choice & then put the exact same amount as the mortgage used to cost into ISA's Premium bonds and additional pension contributions.
Basically enabling a very comfortable retirement or enabling sooner retirement.

I would possibly also consider maybe a 3 month blast of splashing out using what you would ahve paid as mortgage payments on Antigua and the like. Or to have the garden professionally landscaped so you can enjoy your place even more.

Then sign up a the local Scout leader to show your committment to the local community


Flip Martian

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19,715 posts

191 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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louiebaby said:
For me, everything I'm working towards is having a house in a village I like completely paid off and free of all other debt.

With only the normal monthly running cots of council tax, utilities and such like, you must gain a massive amount of freedom from being tied to a job you dislike.

Do it, but each of you should pay the full amount you can into an ISA for any unexpected maintenance in replacement of a mortgage.

You're in a very enviable position in my opinion, for what it's worth...
I wasn't expecting to get to this position so quickly but yep, I know I'm really lucky, cheers. Can't wait for the day where I don't feel tied to the job!

Flip Martian

Original Poster:

19,715 posts

191 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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Welshbeef said:
Great position to be in - well done.

Does your mortgage have any early redemption charges? If so calculate if you are better off paying it off and paying the early redemption charge OR paying the monthly installments until there is n early redemption charge.

Secondly is your mortgage an Offset? If so I'd put all the cash into the savings pot linkdto the account so your fully offset. Then just leave it every month for the next 22 years a DD will reduce that pot down. The benefit is IF you need cash for whatever reason in the future you will have instant access to it and no fees except the prevailing offset mortgage interest rate to pay. Think - buying a replacement car this will be the cheapest way to finance it, extension, new kitchen (you will need 1 or 2 refits in 22 years) ditto bathroom, new roof, rewire of house, etc.


As I have an Offset I'd do my second choice & then put the exact same amount as the mortgage used to cost into ISA's Premium bonds and additional pension contributions.
Basically enabling a very comfortable retirement or enabling sooner retirement.

I would possibly also consider maybe a 3 month blast of splashing out using what you would ahve paid as mortgage payments on Antigua and the like. Or to have the garden professionally landscaped so you can enjoy your place even more.

Then sign up a the local Scout leader to show your committment to the local community
Thanks - the early redemption period ends in June, which works out ok. It will be a few months I'm sure before the other house can be sold etc. Its not an offset no - I just had a straightforward tracker for the last 3 years, which worked out really well when the interest rate dropping so low for so long.

The "more commitment to the local community" will have to wait until I no longer commute to London every day but this will at least hasten that day, hopefully. Already promised my fiancee the Antigua/similar break when its all over - been quite a bad couple of years for both of us with a lot going on and still to get through - this will be the start of a new chapter. And the holiday will be a nice bonus to start things off. smile

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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Flip Martian said:
I wasn't expecting to get to this position so quickly but yep, I know I'm really lucky, cheers. Can't wait for the day where I don't feel tied to the job!
But you still need to work very hard - else all you will have is an asset (house) paid for and no future provisions savings, bonds, guilts, pensions, baby fund, university fund, extra early retireing & amazing holiday fund.

Flip Martian

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19,715 posts

191 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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Welshbeef said:
Flip Martian said:
I wasn't expecting to get to this position so quickly but yep, I know I'm really lucky, cheers. Can't wait for the day where I don't feel tied to the job!
But you still need to work very hard - else all you will have is an asset (house) paid for and no future provisions savings, bonds, guilts, pensions, baby fund, university fund, extra early retireing & amazing holiday fund.
Absolutely - but at the moment I remain tied to a job in London as it pays far more than the equivalent locally. Being freed from having to find quite so much in outgoings every month will be liberating and allow for other avenues to be explored - although I shall probably stick at it a while longer just to build up some capital towards those things you mention.