Broken oven - Thermostat or element. How do I tell?

[KPh]

So, along a similar theme, I have a Bosch HBN9161GB/06. The main circuit tripped today and now the fan over doesn't heat up. The light works, as does the top oven and grill and the control panel shows that it should be lighting but it never gets above hand warm.

Question is, DIY job of buy new element and fit it (I have removed the oven before), or is it harder than I think?

Thanks in advance
Keith

[vladcjelli]

Coincidence that this thread reappeared in My Stuff just now, as this weekend saw the final straw for my Smeg oven.

It's recently been tripping the red for the lower part of the house when you open the lower oven door. Been putting off repair, due to time, and it being a persistent, but intermittent fault.

Anyway, preheating the oven for Sunday roast, and it tripped the electric three times before it got up to temp.

Heading over to http://www.appliancesdirect.co.uk/ on Thursday (fairly local showroom), with the intention of picking up something from Bosch/neff/Siemens as recommended on the decent oven thread.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=125...

I'd like a Miele but funds won't allow

[spitfire-ian]

KPh said:

So, along a similar theme, I have a Bosch HBN9161GB/06. The main circuit tripped today and now the fan over doesn't heat up. The light works, as does the top oven and grill and the control panel shows that it should be lighting but it never gets above hand warm.

Question is, DIY job of buy new element and fit it (I have removed the oven before), or is it harder than I think?

Thanks in advance
Keith

Definitely a DIY job and you probably get to it from the inside.

Remove 4 screws to take the back panel out of the oven.
Remove 1 screw which holds element in place.
Remove 2 wires from element (most likely just pull off).
Throw away old element.
Fit 2 wires to new element.
Fit new element in place using screw.
Refit back panel in oven.
Done.

I took longer fishing out the 2 wires after they disappeared through a hole in the back of the oven than it took to actually replace the part

[vladcjelli]

spitfire-ian said:

KPh said:

So, along a similar theme, I have a Bosch HBN9161GB/06. The main circuit tripped today and now the fan over doesn't heat up. The light works, as does the top oven and grill and the control panel shows that it should be lighting but it never gets above hand warm.

Question is, DIY job of buy new element and fit it (I have removed the oven before), or is it harder than I think?

Thanks in advance
Keith

Definitely a DIY job and you probably get to it from the inside.

Turn power off at source.
Remove 4 screws to take the back panel out of the oven.
Remove 1 screw which holds element in place.
Remove 2 wires from element (most likely just pull off).
Throw away old element.
Fit 2 wires to new element.
Fit new element in place using screw.
Refit back panel in oven.
Done.

I took longer fishing out the 2 wires after they disappeared through a hole in the back of the oven than it took to actually replace the part

Edited just in case of Darwinism.

[Craikeybaby]

I had the element go in my whirlpool oven last night, well I assume it was the element, oven was warm, then power tripped, switched oven back on and it showed it was hot, then the temperature went down and now it won't get warm at all.

[spitfire-ian]

Craikeybaby said:

I had the element go in my whirlpool oven last night, well I assume it was the element, oven was warm, then power tripped, switched oven back on and it showed it was hot, then the temperature went down and now it won't get warm at all.

Yup, sounds like element to me as that's exactly what happened to mine.

[threadlock]

Kermit power said:

It therefore got replaced by a De Dietrich oven with pyrolitic cleaning cycle which is absolutely outstanding! Of course, I have to keep the faith that it will run longer than Smeg rubbish without breaking, but it surely can't be worse!

OP, how's your De Dietrich oven getting along?

[Kermit power]

threadlock said:

Kermit power said:

It therefore got replaced by a De Dietrich oven with pyrolitic cleaning cycle which is absolutely outstanding! Of course, I have to keep the faith that it will run longer than Smeg rubbish without breaking, but it surely can't be worse!

OP, how's your De Dietrich oven getting along?

As an oven, it's brilliant, but that's already had an element replaced under warranty!

[threadlock]

Kermit power said:

As an oven, it's brilliant, but that's already had an element replaced under warranty!

Damnit. Reliability does seem to be their Achilles heel. :-(

[scary]

Thank you everyone. I found this thread by putting "my smeg oven is not heating up" into google. Mmm!

MY Smeg oven is not only not heating up but it's tripping the power off every time I switch it off. Never mind, at least now I know it's fixable.

As for oven reliability issues generally, I'm reliably informed all the elements for anything except a laconche are made in the same factory in China anyway.

Luckily we have a double oven and touch wood, the top one appears to be working so far... I'd better not touch it then, in case it explodes.

Pistonheads is such a handy site... and we have a good oven thread?!!!!

Cheers

MTM

[bob1701]

Hi All following the trend, my built in Baumatic B180ss has just stopped heating. The grill works fine, fan works fine, just no heat, and also the temperature light works which leads me to believe it's the element. I would appreciate anyone who has any advice in regards to replacing the element. Thanks.

[Craikeybaby]

My tip is to be careful and it let the connectors go back into the void behind the oven, that turns it into a complete PITA job.

[Kermit power]

Kermit power said:

threadlock said:

Kermit power said:

It therefore got replaced by a De Dietrich oven with pyrolitic cleaning cycle which is absolutely outstanding! Of course, I have to keep the faith that it will run longer than Smeg rubbish without breaking, but it surely can't be worse!

OP, how's your De Dietrich oven getting along?

As an oven, it's brilliant, but that's already had an element replaced under warranty!

And as a further update, it's gone through a second element, this time out of warranty, but a new one cost the the princely sum of £30.54 including P&P and about half an hour to fit it, so still very happy with the oven.

I've never previously had one with a bread mode that I could set at 265 degrees. It's amazing for making pizza!

[threadlock]

Kermit power said:

And as a further update ... still very happy with the oven.

Thanks for that. I still haven't taken the plunge with this or any oven. Soldiering on with our old Neff but my wife is getting more and more irritated by it.

[FredAstaire]

Try replacing the element - it'll be a five minute job (open oven door, remove panel inside oven, unclip old element, re-clip new one, replace panel, shut door, cook your chips) and cost wont be high for a new element.

[dickymint]

anonymous said:

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For starters why is the replacement element different from the original ie no earth?
Does the display work again if you put the original element back in? If so send it back and get like for like element?

[miniman]

Photo of the wiring?

[gabisivoglo]

Hi everyone,
I have got a SMEG DUCO8CSS and the bottom oven won`t turn on. The LED corresponding that oven (left hand side) will not light either. The upper oven works fine. Any ideas? Thanks to everyone for any help.

[FredAstaire]

gabisivoglo said:

Hi everyone,
I have got a SMEG DUCO8CSS and the bottom oven won`t turn on. The LED corresponding that oven (left hand side) will not light either. The upper oven works fine. Any ideas? Thanks to everyone for any help.

Is it a fan oven and Does the fan come on?

[gabisivoglo]

Thanks for the answer
Nothing comes on , no LED, fan or element when turning the knobs. The first position of the left knob is for the light and that does not work either, the lamp only lights the oven when opening the door.
It`s a fan oven, btw.

Edited by gabisivoglo on Wednesday 27th December 23:37