Our build thread, renovation and extension

[Muncher]

It's still hanging as it was, not got round to modifying it yet, I'm awaiting inspiration on that one!

[miniman]

I'm contemplating something along similar lines - although significantly less lamps - based around galvanised conduit and fittings, and coloured old-style flex. Might be a bit industrial for your place though.

[richtea78]

This is amazing Muncher and the budget is staggering.

What will you do with all your spare time when it's finished?

[Muncher]

Ceiling painted in the kitchen/lounge today and a few bits shuffled around.

The sofas finally came out of their packaging much to the dismay of the cats who had been using the gaps in between as a place to sleep! They are actually a nicer grey than they appear in all the photos for some reason.









View from the hob!



The concrete in daylight

[Muncher]

richtea78 said:

This is amazing Muncher and the budget is staggering.

What will you do with all your spare time when it's finished?

Still a way to go yet, a few rooms still have a bit of tidying to be done and there is a garage to build and garden to do, but watch this space

[Muncher]

One for the number fans amongst you, here is an adjusted build figure for the house only, assuming we had to build the whole front of the house as well from scratch. The time saving would have been considerable, I think it would have knocked about 9 months off the time and interestingly the additional cost would have only been around £17k extra. This takes into account the numbers for building the structure at the back, less any savings that would have been made from having to incorporate the old structure.

Item Materials Labour Virgin Site Additional Materials Virgin Site Additional Labour Virgin Site Savings
Groundworks £3,034 £620 3034 620
Drainage £2,007 £200
Walls £6,479 £8,245 6479 8245 -4000
Plastering £2,616 £3,090
Windows and Doors £20,650 £80
First Floor £3,500 £0 3500 -240
Steels £2,494 £0
Roof £8,911 £7,857 3734 -3000
Electrical £11,565
Flooring £7,795 £1,000 -150
Kitchens £15,353
Bathrooms £9,026
Plumbing £8,801 £1,095
Exterior £5,220
Garage £13,203 £2,010
Plant £2,540 -1200
Staircase £2,096 £195
Insulation £2,103
Decoration £1,743
Internal Carpentry (visible) £7,527 £130

£136,663 £24,522

Grand Total = £161,185
£118,240 £22,512 16747 8865 -8590
Total build cost on virgin site excluding landscaping and garage £157,774

231sqm = £683 per square meter


Though in actual fact if I was doing it again I would have built into the roof properly (allowing £12k for fit out), which I think would have given me these numbers:

300sqm = £567 per square meter
300sqm

[VX Foxy]

Muncher said:

Yeah, Wren delivered some last week but the paint finish on the handles was rubbish, no acknowledgement from them of that. Ordered on 31 Dec last year and into July and still waiting. Apparently they told a friend of ours in the shop that it was "our fault for ordering an odd colour kitchen". Despite them having TWO full demo kitchens of that colour in their showroom.

Well they definitely have a quality problem with the handle less gloss and they know it. It shows up worse on the grey apparently. Have you noticed that the back of some drawers/doors is different from the others? The old were supplied by a factory in Italy and are smoth on the back. The new ones with the problems a have a textured finish on the back. My kitchen install is pretty much complete but quite a few fronts need replacing. I'm waiting for them to solve the problem before I start kicking off. Fortunately, we bought on finance and it doesn't start until I've signed to say I'm happy. I will now be dragging my heels as much as they have...

Edited by VX Foxy on Sunday 6th July 23:32

[GTO-3R]

Your kitchen looks great Muncher

[ILOVEWATCHES]

Have you tried the hobs yet? Are they as fast to heat up as gas? Also am i right in saying if i put my hand on the ring it won't burn but when i put down the frying pan which is designed for induction hob it will heat up?

[Muncher]

ILOVEWATCHES said:

Have you tried the hobs yet? Are they as fast to heat up as gas? Also am i right in saying if i put my hand on the ring it won't burn but when i put down the frying pan which is designed for induction hob it will heat up?

Yes we have used it for a couple of months now. Cooking wise it is the same as my parents Neff induction one which I used for around 6 years.

I would say it is just as fast as, if not faster to heat up than gas. It will boil a three quarts full pan of water in about 45 seconds I would guess.

You're right you can put your hand on it and it won't burn, other than the fact that if you have a pan on there for a while the glass will eventually warm up because it has a hot pan sitting on it, that is inevitable, but the surface itself doesn't heat up.

[ILOVEWATCHES]

Muncher said:

Yes we have used it for a couple of months now. Cooking wise it is the same as my parents Neff induction one which I used for around 6 years.

I would say it is just as fast as, if not faster to heat up than gas. It will boil a three quarts full pan of water in about 45 seconds I would guess.

You're right you can put your hand on it and it won't burn, other than the fact that if you have a pan on there for a while the glass will eventually warm up because it has a hot pan sitting on it, that is inevitable, but the surface itself doesn't heat up.

Might have to come round and try your out

When i saw your hob i firstly thought it was ceramic and my parents have this in our house in ireland - installer LATE 80S! At the time it was the cream of the crop however when the weather gets bad the electricity gets cut of there is power - meaning no cooking.

I just think the induction hobs are child friendly and easy to clean and the clever technology with regards to the magnets

[Red Firecracker]

But th ebest bit with the NEFs is that the silver control knob is magnetic and can be removed. I must admit, i bought mine based on that.......

[Minemapper]

Looking good. Amazing how different the finish is on your tops, considering we used pretty much the same mix. I think the exposed and polished aggregate works better for us, but I love how crisp your edges are.

Nice update!

[ILOVEWATCHES]

Red Firecracker said:

But th ebest bit with the NEFs is that the silver control knob is magnetic and can be removed. I must admit, i bought mine based on that.......

And again would you ever go back to gas? Why was the reason you are the switch? More child friendly or design reasons?

[Red Firecracker]

ILOVEWATCHES said:

And again would you ever go back to gas? Why was the reason you are the switch? More child friendly or design reasons?

We have no gas in our current house, so not the best person to ask, but what I will say is that it is the best cooking surface we have ever used. I wouldn;t go back to a normal hob and I'd think twice about gas in the future.

Plus, did I mention the control knob is magnetic and comes off?

[anonymous-user]

Red Firecracker said:

But th ebest bit with the NEFs is that the silver control knob is magnetic and can be removed. I must admit, i bought mine based on that.......

The fun bit is when cleaning and you forget to take the knob off. I've sent mine flying twice since moving in April

[5potTurbo]

The worktops look great, Muncher.


We bought Neff appliances for our kitchen, and even 7 months after moving in, I switch the oven on then forget to press 'start', and it beeps at me to remind me.... d'oh!
As for the hob, we have the induction too, much better than the ceramic we had before for control, very easy to clean, but I didn't know the control knob was magnetic until it was installed.

[Too Late]

Interesting costings Muncher, not too dissimilar to mine

Items Labour Materials Plant Totals
Management £5,083.87 £0.00 £575.00 £5,658.87
Demolitions £1,898.02 £0.00 £1,890.19 £3,788.21

Excavations and Foundations £1,306.19 £1,114.38 £1,392.98 £3,813.55

Drainage £796.42 £1,597.62 £0.00 £2,394.04

Substructure and Masonary £769.94 £684.87 £0.00 £1,454.81

Superstructure Masonary £7,865.58 £9,505.57 £308.19 £17,679.34

Garage Floor £262.11 £350.77 £85.72 £698.60

Ground Floor £1,251.96 £1,762.18 £144.12 £3,158.26

First Floor £639.96 £882.12 £0.00 £1,522.08

Roof Structure £3,259.20 £5,429.31 £109.04 £8,797.55

Flat Roof £904.89 £2,687.97 £10.31 £3,603.17

Roof Covering £8,781.70 £5,995.08 £193.61 £14,970.39

Sun and Rooflights £157.46 £869.49 £0.00 £1,026.95

Internal Timber Partitions £1,005.71 £990.21 £79.14 £2,075.06

Rainwater goods £538.54 £270.29 £0.00 £808.83

Windows and External Doors £1,074.52 £11,185.36 £0.00 £12,259.88

External Cladding £1,732.95 £527.31 £0.00 £2,260.26

Electrical 1st Fix £1,621.64 £682.69 £0.00 £2,304.33

Plumbing 1st Fix £1,741.04 £951.36 £0.00 £2,692.40

Plastering £4,010.72 £1,364.32 £307.42 £5,682.46

Second fix joinery £1,995.44 £3,913.69 £0.00 £5,909.13

Heating £3,797.30 £5,603.44 £0.00 £9,400.74

Electrical 2nd Fix £1,305.60 £1,420.18 £0.00 £2,725.78

Plumbing 2nd Fix £776.50 £8.41 £0.00 £784.91

Decorating £3,657.92 £847.33 £0.00 £4,505.25

Provisional Sums £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00

Scaffolding £0.00 £0.00 £4,672.15 £4,672.15

Waste Adjustments £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00

£56,235.18 £58,643.95 £9,767.87 £124,647.00
VAT £67,482.22 £70,372.74 £11,721.44 £149,576.40

Edited by Too Late on Thursday 10th July 10:27

[5potTurbo]

Too Late said:

Interesting costings Muncher, not too dissimilar to mine

Items Labour Materials Plant Totals
Management £5,083.87 £0.00 £575.00 £5,658.87
Demolitions £1,898.02 £0.00 £1,890.19 £3,788.21

Evacuations and Foundations £1,306.19 £1,114.38 £1,392.98 £3,813.55

.....

Excavations?

[Too Late]

5potTurbo said:

Excavations?

I stand corrected.