Our build thread, renovation and extension

Our build thread, renovation and extension

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Muncher

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12,219 posts

249 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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paulrockliffe said:
That's a lot of effort for your storage! It's too late now, but did you consider using an external staircase to a dormer entrance in the roof? It would have made a nice feature on the side and saved you all this trouble. Also, a big top-hinge velux so you can sit up there and watch the bowls?
Considered an external staircase but didn't really have the space for it, also considered a top hinge velux but I have an even better vantage point for the bowls form 3 windows in the house.



Muncher

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12,219 posts

249 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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The alarm is already covered but omitted from the list, power for a lift is also on there. I already have 4 external sockets on the house plus external lighting circuits running into the garden. I don't really see the need to turn everything off any more so than in the house. That reminds me, hard wired fire alarm is going in too.

Edited by Muncher on Sunday 15th January 21:24

uk66fastback

16,540 posts

271 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Well, in the absence of any daylight, looks like you've got enough LED panels to be going on with - Christ! I'm only having FOUR in my single garage ... ! Maybe I'll have to up it a bit.

Interested to hear more about the wall mounted ones and how you get on with them ... I think you' e got more electrickerry in that garage than I have in my whole house!

http://www.seratechnologies.com/news/how-many-led-...

Edited by uk66fastback on Monday 16th January 18:54

Muncher

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249 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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http://www.charlstonlights.com/led-light-requireme...

High intensity workshop lighting = 82500 lumen for my garage size. 18 ceiling panels is about 75000.

ndg

560 posts

237 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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What room type did you select? I can't see workshop on there?

Good tool though.

Muncher

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249 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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I actually went for showroom on there but I had previously found a similar too which included a few more room types such as workshop and the light level for that and showroom were pretty similar.

uk66fastback

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271 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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I had seen that as well but couldn't find 'garage' so like you chose 'showroom' and mine comes out as 14k, but for the full on effect it's 32k ... which is 10 panels! SO I might make it SIX,on mine, not FOUR. How long before they're in at yours?

My son does work at an electrical trade place (cef.co.uk) so I'm quids in as he gets me these at cost!

Muncher

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249 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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There's garages and then there's garages.... the brighter the better for my purposes.

Mine were about £16 each including drivers. I think it will be about 6 weeks before they are in.

Tuna

19,930 posts

284 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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82,000 lumen? That's hells bright. My shed has 6 HF flourescent tubes to give 20,000 lumen which is a good clear light for working in (plus spots for detail). You might need to invest in some suntan lotion.

Muncher

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12,219 posts

249 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Tuna said:
82,000 lumen? That's hells bright. My shed has 6 HF flourescent tubes to give 20,000 lumen which is a good clear light for working in (plus spots for detail). You might need to invest in some suntan lotion.
Plus approx another 20000 on the walls. I am sceptical whether the lights will actually hit their stated figure and I'd rather have it too bright and turn a few off than be scratching around in an engine bay holding a torch.



uk66fastback

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271 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Muncher said:
There's garages and then there's garages.... the brighter the better for my purposes.

Mine were about £16 each including drivers. I think it will be about 6 weeks before they are in.
That's a very good price - got a link to them for the spec? Are they going in a drop ceiling or are you having the frames as well?

Muncher

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249 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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The price has gone up a little since I ordered.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/322336777503

I haven't tested those ones but I bought a similar one from another supplier and was pretty impressed with it. I am just going to stick them directly to the ceiling with a little silicone.

Muncher

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249 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Ok, would you render or plaster the inside of the garage? Same cost for each.

Plasterer says he would render as he can get a good finish and it will be more hard wearing. Plaster is more easily repairable if I need to drill in to it, chase anything out etc. What do you think?

Happy Jim

968 posts

239 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Muncher said:
Ok, would you render or plaster the inside of the garage? Same cost for each.

Plasterer says he would render as he can get a good finish and it will be more hard wearing. Plaster is more easily repairable if I need to drill in to it, chase anything out etc. What do you think?
Plaster every time, render inside just doesn't feel right in my head!

Tuna

19,930 posts

284 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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Muncher said:
Ok, would you render or plaster the inside of the garage? Same cost for each.

Plasterer says he would render as he can get a good finish and it will be more hard wearing. Plaster is more easily repairable if I need to drill in to it, chase anything out etc. What do you think?
Unless it's fully heated and bone dry, I'd always feel that plaster ends up 'soft' and just doesn't wear well. More superstition than fact, I'm sure, but still.

Muncher

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12,219 posts

249 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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That's cleared things up no end tongue out

I was supposed to go and look at a Cayenne Turbo today but it still needs some issues fixing, so I was back out in the garage fitting loads of noggins. Need to do first fix electrics, board the ceiling then we should be ready for the plasterer.

felixgogo

155 posts

167 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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If I was starting a brand new garage like this - I wouldn't render or plaster.

I'd go for shop fitting type slatwall. You can get it in a number of different finishes, and then you can hang stuff on the walls anywhere.

Like this:



Fixes up on battens, no wet plaster to dry out for days- and probably not much more expensive - you can fit it yourself.

Cheers
Ian

Tuna

19,930 posts

284 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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felixgogo said:
If I was starting a brand new garage like this - I wouldn't render or plaster.

I'd go for shop fitting type slatwall. You can get it in a number of different finishes, and then you can hang stuff on the walls anywhere.
Good call. Any 'non stone' wall covering will also improve the building's response rate for being heated. which is handy if you're not planning to heat it 24/7. As our builders would say, it 'strikes warm'.

Muncher

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Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Interesting idea but I don't want to hang anything on the walls, that's what the upstairs is for. I also have several brick piers which would look odd covered in slatwall. There is also a lot of garage wall, over 90 square meters, covering it all might look a bit much.

Cheib

23,248 posts

175 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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felixgogo said:
If I was starting a brand new garage like this - I wouldn't render or plaster.

I'd go for shop fitting type slatwall. You can get it in a number of different finishes, and then you can hang stuff on the walls anywhere.

Like this:



Fixes up on battens, no wet plaster to dry out for days- and probably not much more expensive - you can fit it yourself.

Cheers
Ian
That's a very good idea!