House renovation and garage build
Discussion
roofer said:
Same as decent felt then. 
Obviously I defer to your superior knowledge as you are very experienced and respected in the trade. However from what you are implying there is a lot of felt product out there that is not up to lasting for 50 years. I've seen a lot of felt roofs (you have seen multiple of times more than me) in my former employment as an insurance surveyor and I'd say most are past it by 20 years old. The Company I worked for were not keen on insuring felt roofs over 15 years old I think it was - this was policy that comes from many many years of insuring hundreds of thousand/possibly millions of flat roofs and the data they get back from claims experience - I suspect that is quite telling. It was also a specific point that had to be reported back to underwriters - insurance companies may be universally hated on here but I'll tell you what (motor claims aside) generally they ain't stupid.
Not the same thing I know but my shed roof dropped its felt over my lawn after about 3 years I think it was. I replaced with an offcut of single membrane and it still looks new after 7/8 years.
IMHO single membrane looks so much nicer than felt and doesn't run the risk of blow torches and/or tar boilers on your roof.
Edited by elanfan on Sunday 11th May 11:04
elanfan said:
roofer said:
Same as decent felt then.
Obviously I defer to your superior knowledge as you are very experienced and respected in the trade. However from what you are implying there is a lot of felt product out there that is not up to lasting for 50 years. I had a camera going for a time-lapse yesterday, which I've uploaded to YouTube,unfortunately the camera stopped about an hour before we finished smashing up the last bits and making the temporary fence at the back, but captured most of the day: http://youtu.be/-QYF2SHSO6o
Yeah, the sledge hammer barely got used and the angle grinder wasn't needed at all!
I've got a confirmed start date from the builder - 1st June, so will be missing my self imposed deadline of Le Mans, but it should still leave plenty of time to get the dining room emptied of garage contents and decorated before the end of August.
Have put all the prices for garage stuff into a spreadsheet and it is quite scary, even paring everything as far back as I can, I've overshot the budget:
£9,000 - to build the garage, including a bit of landscaping etc
£1,500 - Hormann sectional door
£1,000 - electrics
£2,100 - fencing
£400 - shed
I've got a confirmed start date from the builder - 1st June, so will be missing my self imposed deadline of Le Mans, but it should still leave plenty of time to get the dining room emptied of garage contents and decorated before the end of August.
Have put all the prices for garage stuff into a spreadsheet and it is quite scary, even paring everything as far back as I can, I've overshot the budget:
£9,000 - to build the garage, including a bit of landscaping etc
£1,500 - Hormann sectional door
£1,000 - electrics
£2,100 - fencing
£400 - shed
Fence is prtty much finished on the right had side, the back and other side will be done when the garage has been built.
New fence by Lewis Craik, on Flickr
Also, I didn't realise that the panels are tanalised, so no need to paint them this weekend - result!
New fence by Lewis Craik, on Flickr
Also, I didn't realise that the panels are tanalised, so no need to paint them this weekend - result!
The fence along the right hand side of the garden is now finished, other than the last 30cm, which needs a smaller panel.
Removing the old fence has left an area of the outside loo wall exposed without pebbledash, so will need to get that seen to. Is the mortar the same type that the bricklayers would be using for building the garage?
I've got a skip sorted for the weekend to load the scrap wood from the garage, although I'm not 100% convinced that a 4 yard skip, which is the biggest they can deliver to the back garden will be big enough.
Now that the fence is up I need to start thinking about how to get power to the garage, the electrician says I need a 500mm trench - I was hoping armoured cable along the fence line would suffice! The builder thinks using a digger to dig the trench will trash the garden, which I tend to agree with, so it looks like I've got some digging to do! As that bed is going to be the veg plot, I'd prefer to keep the cable as close to the fence line as possible, but is that likely to cause problems for the fence?
Removing the old fence has left an area of the outside loo wall exposed without pebbledash, so will need to get that seen to. Is the mortar the same type that the bricklayers would be using for building the garage?
I've got a skip sorted for the weekend to load the scrap wood from the garage, although I'm not 100% convinced that a 4 yard skip, which is the biggest they can deliver to the back garden will be big enough.
Now that the fence is up I need to start thinking about how to get power to the garage, the electrician says I need a 500mm trench - I was hoping armoured cable along the fence line would suffice! The builder thinks using a digger to dig the trench will trash the garden, which I tend to agree with, so it looks like I've got some digging to do! As that bed is going to be the veg plot, I'd prefer to keep the cable as close to the fence line as possible, but is that likely to cause problems for the fence?
Craikeybaby said:
The fence along the right hand side of the garden is now finished, other than the last 30cm, which needs a smaller panel.
Removing the old fence has left an area of the outside loo wall exposed without pebbledash, so will need to get that seen to. Is the mortar the same type that the bricklayers would be using for building the garage?
I've got a skip sorted for the weekend to load the scrap wood from the garage, although I'm not 100% convinced that a 4 yard skip, which is the biggest they can deliver to the back garden will be big enough.
Now that the fence is up I need to start thinking about how to get power to the garage, the electrician says I need a 500mm trench - I was hoping armoured cable along the fence line would suffice! The builder thinks using a digger to dig the trench will trash the garden, which I tend to agree with, so it looks like I've got some digging to do! As that bed is going to be the veg plot, I'd prefer to keep the cable as close to the fence line as possible, but is that likely to cause problems for the fence?
Could you run the cable/ armoured in some conduit attached to the lower of the fence. Like 32mm waste pipe? It would take a few spade hits.Removing the old fence has left an area of the outside loo wall exposed without pebbledash, so will need to get that seen to. Is the mortar the same type that the bricklayers would be using for building the garage?
I've got a skip sorted for the weekend to load the scrap wood from the garage, although I'm not 100% convinced that a 4 yard skip, which is the biggest they can deliver to the back garden will be big enough.
Now that the fence is up I need to start thinking about how to get power to the garage, the electrician says I need a 500mm trench - I was hoping armoured cable along the fence line would suffice! The builder thinks using a digger to dig the trench will trash the garden, which I tend to agree with, so it looks like I've got some digging to do! As that bed is going to be the veg plot, I'd prefer to keep the cable as close to the fence line as possible, but is that likely to cause problems for the fence?
Craikeybaby said:
That was my plan, but electrician says it needs buried. Along the fence line seems safer to me - as that bed will be our veg plot, so likely to be dug.
As far as I'm aware there's no requirement to bury armoured cable. We had a load installed a couple of years back to take power to the garage and supply some security lights. The work was done by a reputable local company who were very conscientious, and they were entirely happy to run the bale along the ground at the base of fences and such.It's been a while since the last update, but for once it has been because we've been working on the garden!
We've loaded a couple of skips with the garage/contents of the garage, there are still a few bits left over, but they can go to the tip in Jen's car.
Yesterday we built a raised bed, mainly so that we keep the good soil from the old veg plot we're expanding the garage onto; and it looks a lot better than the sloped concrete bed we had before.
We used Woodblocx and I was really impressed with them, the bed feels really solid and the only tools needed were a spirit level & hammer. I would have struggled building something similar with normal sleepers and it only cost about the same as plain sleepers. The only slight problem is that there were a couple of brackets missing, hence the last bits of capping haven't been fitted yet. Assuming they can send the brackets down, another great reccomendation from PH!
Jen building the raised bed by Lewis Craik, on Flickr
Raised bed almost done! by Lewis Craik, on Flickr
Raised bed - almost done! by Lewis Craik, on Flickr
Todays job is to fill it - the plan (when it stops raining) is to seive the soil from the old veg plot and barrow it down, the the leeks, chillies & herbs can go in.
We've loaded a couple of skips with the garage/contents of the garage, there are still a few bits left over, but they can go to the tip in Jen's car.
Yesterday we built a raised bed, mainly so that we keep the good soil from the old veg plot we're expanding the garage onto; and it looks a lot better than the sloped concrete bed we had before.
We used Woodblocx and I was really impressed with them, the bed feels really solid and the only tools needed were a spirit level & hammer. I would have struggled building something similar with normal sleepers and it only cost about the same as plain sleepers. The only slight problem is that there were a couple of brackets missing, hence the last bits of capping haven't been fitted yet. Assuming they can send the brackets down, another great reccomendation from PH!
Jen building the raised bed by Lewis Craik, on Flickr
Raised bed almost done! by Lewis Craik, on Flickr
Raised bed - almost done! by Lewis Craik, on Flickr
Todays job is to fill it - the plan (when it stops raining) is to seive the soil from the old veg plot and barrow it down, the the leeks, chillies & herbs can go in.
I didn't make much progress on my days off due to the weather, typically now that I'm back in the office it looks to have improved, so hopefully I'll get some digging done this evening.
The builders start of Monday, so I want to get all the topsoil moved that we are keeping, ideally the trench for the electrics dug and still need to get the skip taken away, although there is a bit of a queue apparently.
The builders start of Monday, so I want to get all the topsoil moved that we are keeping, ideally the trench for the electrics dug and still need to get the skip taken away, although there is a bit of a queue apparently.
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