glass for balustrade
Discussion
Nobby Diesel said:
Take a look at this http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/buildingregulatio...
and download the Document.
Refer to section K1 1.29
"Guarding cannot be readily climbed."
I know that many companies offer it. I see it all the time on "Grand Designs" et al.
I don't know how people get away with it, if the local Building Control are half worth their salt.
I know of instances where people have fitted temporary panels to get a sign off, then replaced with tension wires.
It seems daft, but commercial and public areas don't attract the same level of caution.
I realise that Documet K does not specifically refer to Decking, but this is the Documnet most widely used and applied to decked areas. There may be a caveat depending on the height of the fall off the edge of the decked area.
Hi Nigel, Fancy seeing you on this thread and download the Document.
Refer to section K1 1.29
"Guarding cannot be readily climbed."
I know that many companies offer it. I see it all the time on "Grand Designs" et al.
I don't know how people get away with it, if the local Building Control are half worth their salt.
I know of instances where people have fitted temporary panels to get a sign off, then replaced with tension wires.
It seems daft, but commercial and public areas don't attract the same level of caution.
I realise that Documet K does not specifically refer to Decking, but this is the Documnet most widely used and applied to decked areas. There may be a caveat depending on the height of the fall off the edge of the decked area.
Interestingly, I'm currently in the process of building a raised decking area outside my back door and had to apply for Planning Permission. After permission was granted, I spoke to Building Control about Building Regs . They looked at the drawings and told me that they weren't interested as it was a garden structure and did not need to comply.
Whilst Building Regs Document K concerning barriers, in Section 3.3 gives specific advice on construction in areas likely to be used by children under 5, including that horizontal rails should be avoided, it goes on to state that
"For further guidance on the design of barriers and infill panels, reference should be made to BS 6180 : 1995 Code of practice for protective barriers in and around buildings"
Now page 23 of BS 6180 : 1995 referred to says
H.3.4.3 In all buildings, except for industrial buildings
(a) the size of any opening or gap in a barrier shall not be
large enough as to permit the passage of a sphere of a
diameter of 100 mm; and
(b) The barrier at a location where there is a vertical drop in
level of 3.0 m or more shall have no toeholds between the
height of 150mm and 750mm above the finished floor
level. The use of perforated sheet or mesh rigidly fixed
over the full barrier height is acceptable provided the
openings have a maximum dimension (other than the
perimeter) of 50mm.
So, it appears to me, that unless the barrier is in an area likely to be frequented by children under 5, or is protecting an edge over 3m high then there's no reason why tensioned steel wires cant be used as ballustrade infill.
But, I've no doubt that someone with engineering qualifications will be along soon to corrrect me.
sparkythecat said:
Hi Nigel, Fancy seeing you on this thread
Interestingly, I'm currently in the process of building a raised decking area outside my back door and had to apply for Planning Permission. After permission was granted, I spoke to Building Control about Building Regs . They looked at the drawings and told me that they weren't interested as it was a garden structure and did not need to comply.
Whilst Building Regs Document K concerning barriers, in Section 3.3 gives specific advice on construction in areas likely to be used by children under 5, including that horizontal rails should be avoided, it goes on to state that
"For further guidance on the design of barriers and infill panels, reference should be made to BS 6180 : 1995 Code of practice for protective barriers in and around buildings"
Now page 23 of BS 6180 : 1995 referred to says
H.3.4.3 In all buildings, except for industrial buildings
(a) the size of any opening or gap in a barrier shall not be
large enough as to permit the passage of a sphere of a
diameter of 100 mm; and
(b) The barrier at a location where there is a vertical drop in
level of 3.0 m or more shall have no toeholds between the
height of 150mm and 750mm above the finished floor
level. The use of perforated sheet or mesh rigidly fixed
over the full barrier height is acceptable provided the
openings have a maximum dimension (other than the
perimeter) of 50mm.
So, it appears to me, that unless the barrier is in an area likely to be frequented by children under 5, or is protecting an edge over 3m high then there's no reason why tensioned steel wires cant be used as ballustrade infill.
But, I've no doubt that someone with engineering qualifications will be along soon to corrrect me.
Yep - I like hanging out in places like this Interestingly, I'm currently in the process of building a raised decking area outside my back door and had to apply for Planning Permission. After permission was granted, I spoke to Building Control about Building Regs . They looked at the drawings and told me that they weren't interested as it was a garden structure and did not need to comply.
Whilst Building Regs Document K concerning barriers, in Section 3.3 gives specific advice on construction in areas likely to be used by children under 5, including that horizontal rails should be avoided, it goes on to state that
"For further guidance on the design of barriers and infill panels, reference should be made to BS 6180 : 1995 Code of practice for protective barriers in and around buildings"
Now page 23 of BS 6180 : 1995 referred to says
H.3.4.3 In all buildings, except for industrial buildings
(a) the size of any opening or gap in a barrier shall not be
large enough as to permit the passage of a sphere of a
diameter of 100 mm; and
(b) The barrier at a location where there is a vertical drop in
level of 3.0 m or more shall have no toeholds between the
height of 150mm and 750mm above the finished floor
level. The use of perforated sheet or mesh rigidly fixed
over the full barrier height is acceptable provided the
openings have a maximum dimension (other than the
perimeter) of 50mm.
So, it appears to me, that unless the barrier is in an area likely to be frequented by children under 5, or is protecting an edge over 3m high then there's no reason why tensioned steel wires cant be used as ballustrade infill.
But, I've no doubt that someone with engineering qualifications will be along soon to corrrect me.
Local Planning will most likely enforce the prohibition of tension wires on the basis of future use.
"What happens when you move out and a family with a 3 year old moves in?"
I know; I think it's daft too!!
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