knotweed Goddammit!!!!!

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stanwan

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226 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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BigTom85 said:
Any pics to help me get my head round it?

You've definitely been shafted, but stick at it, you WILL beat it!

Are you looking to peruse the vendor? I'd say the evidence was pretty conclusive.








Oh and if things couldn't get worse today, I've just discovered this:



It can't be repaired and its going to be £300 to replace it. A bit annoying since there is plenty of tread left. Oh and I have to get to a wedding 50 miles away on Tuesday. I swear someone has got it in for me....

blueg33

35,902 posts

224 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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TooLateForAName said:
Got their new address?

You might return some of it to them
That would be a criminal offence.

Stanwan needs a decent lawyer, the problem is the cost. I would start by discussing it with his insurers, and if he has one his mortgage co. The latter will have relied on the same enquiries.

Either the OP's lawyer is at fault for failing to ask the right questions during the purchase or the seller has been deliberately misleading.

stanwan

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226 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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MY knowledge of building practices is sketchy at best. The above excavation has been achieved with little more than a hand trowel!!!!

Now that I'm getting to a significant depth by the foundations I am beginning to get concerned about inadvertently causing structural issues. A builder I spoke to advised me to dig in sections and avoid digging a trench all the way across.

I [probably need to be guided by a building inspector/ experienced ground worker to tackle this problem properly. The garden is big enough to tore a skip/ hippo bags to contain the soil, but I still need to import fresh backfill and have it done correctly.

Hoofy

76,361 posts

282 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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Are you allowed to transport away "infected" soil?

stanwan

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Sunday 3rd June 2012
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Hoofy said:
Are you allowed to transport away "infected" soil?
You can only if it is destined for licensed land fill .Dumping it or fly tipping is strictly frowned upon.

dickymint

24,341 posts

258 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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I don't get it, I just don't get it. This thing has taken over your life! Kill it man... fking kill it! How hard can it be? It's not an alien, it doesn't have supernatural powers it's organic it will die!!!!

I've followed this tragedy of a thread, i've probably done as much research as you have. It's totally possessed you Stan. Just get on with the job and kill it FFS. I bet you any money 5 gallons of diesel poured in that hole will sort it.

Hoofy

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282 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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stanwan said:
You can only if it is destined for licensed land fill .Dumping it or fly tipping is strictly frowned upon.
Oh right. I bet!


blueg33

35,902 posts

224 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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dickymint said:
I don't get it, I just don't get it. This thing has taken over your life! Kill it man... fking kill it! How hard can it be? It's not an alien, it doesn't have supernatural powers it's organic it will die!!!!

I've followed this tragedy of a thread, i've probably done as much research as you have. It's totally possessed you Stan. Just get on with the job and kill it FFS. I bet you any money 5 gallons of diesel poured in that hole will sort it.
Causing hydrocarbon contamination is not the best way to get rid of knotweed. If the Op has mobile ground water, or is in a groundwater protection zone, then he could easily be in some trouble following your advice.

Op has to treat and treat again, it will die eventually

stanwan

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Sunday 3rd June 2012
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dickymint said:
I don't get it, I just don't get it. This thing has taken over your life! Kill it man... fking kill it! How hard can it be? It's not an alien, it doesn't have supernatural powers it's organic it will die!!!!

I've followed this tragedy of a thread, i've probably done as much research as you have. It's totally possessed you Stan. Just get on with the job and kill it FFS. I bet you any money 5 gallons of diesel poured in that hole will sort it.
Yup it's ruining what should be our delightful migration out from London to Herts. We've worked our butts off for this and we are reeling from being fked over by the vendors.

Aside from my wife, daughter and Aston wink, this is my most valuable asset and future nest egg. I want to get rid of this problem ASAP so I can put it behind us and get on with enjoying life in Stortford.

I hope the vendors never cross my path again....

blondini

477 posts

178 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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blueg33 said:
Op has to treat and treat again, it will die eventually
This is it. You don't have to dig it all out, just keep monitoring and treating.

richyb

4,615 posts

210 months

Monday 4th June 2012
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Stanwan, don't panic and stop digging! The most effective way of dealing with knotweed is regular poisoning and monitoring. Shift through the soil you've excavated and remove any large bits of root then burn them. Put all the soil you've excavated in a few big pots as it will no doubt have some rhizome in it still. Get yourself a garden sprayer and 5 litres of glyphosate (I use Gallup Biograde Glyphosate 5L which will cost you about £35) then wait for the plant to re-emerge. 30ml chemical per litre of water then spray it every week on a dry day. Enough spray to coat the leaves but not so much that it starts to run off. It will be growing April through till the end of September. Don't cut or remove the stems till winter when it is definitely dead. The herbicide works best when the plant is functioning normally. You will get it!

Edited by richyb on Monday 4th June 09:47

stanwan

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226 months

Thursday 21st June 2012
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Update.

I've given up digging by hand - I simply can't carry on! We've hired in a digger and its not great news.

Looks like we have root that has penetrated the cavity walls and into the foundations.

Not happy


blueg33

35,902 posts

224 months

Thursday 21st June 2012
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You really need to speak to your lawyer about answers to enquiries and whther the seller misled you.




danyeates

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222 months

Thursday 21st June 2012
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blueg33 said:
You really need to speak to your lawyer about answers to enquiries and whther the seller misled you.
Yep, I agree. Amazing how they tried to cover it up.

Never again will I buy a house without having this checked out. Never even knew it existed.

stanwan

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226 months

Thursday 21st June 2012
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10 tons and counting...





stanwan

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Thursday 21st June 2012
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blueg33 said:
You really need to speak to your lawyer about answers to enquiries and whther the seller misled you.
SAdly we've looked at the correspondence and standard forms - no mention of knotweed or contaminated land. I guess the searches were clear too. Radon, subsidence etc. Not sure if we could claim this is a structural defect - it technically is of course....

blueg33

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Thursday 21st June 2012
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stanwan said:
SAdly we've looked at the correspondence and standard forms - no mention of knotweed or contaminated land. I guess the searches were clear too. Radon, subsidence etc. Not sure if we could claim this is a structural defect - it technically is of course....
What questions did your lawyer ask? he should have raised an enquiry about contamination, if he didnt then maybe he has a case to answer!



Edited by blueg33 on Thursday 21st June 14:42

Hoofy

76,361 posts

282 months

Thursday 21st June 2012
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Stanwan, you could phone LBC's legal hour (free advice) and see what the lawyer says:
http://www.lbc.co.uk/iain-dales-legal-hour-27722

Good luck!

blueg33

35,902 posts

224 months

Thursday 21st June 2012
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This is the knotweed on part of the site I have just bought (Thanks Network Rail for the contamination)

Its about 10ft tall at the moment and will push over the stone wall at some point. Method statement reckons 18 months to kill the stuff by the wall with regular treatment. Small patch at the front will be dig and dump.

Total area front for dig and dump = 8sqm
Rear as photos, treat = 50sqm

Total cost £10k with warranties




stanwan

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Thursday 21st June 2012
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blueg33 said:
This is the knotweed on part of the site I have just bought (Thanks Network Rail for the contamination)

Its about 10ft tall at the moment and will push over the stone wall at some point. Method statement reckons 18 months to kill the stuff by the wall with regular treatment. Small patch at the front will be dig and dump.

Total area front for dig and dump = 8sqm
Rear as photos, treat = 50sqm

Total cost £10k with warranties



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Holy crap! That is bad. I hope the landowner didn't try any dirty tricks!

My stand is minicule in comparison. problem is that the wall makes the rhizome dive down. It's not spread over a wide area in my case - Knotweed really hates clay. PRoblem is that the house builders themselves dumped loads of bricks and waste to bulk up the infill and this has given the knotweed an easier time beside the buiding.

I'm hoping a persistent herbicide used liberally around the remaining root will keep it at bay