knotweed Goddammit!!!!!

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russ_a

4,578 posts

211 months

Thursday 3rd May 2012
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BigTom85 said:
To be honest, for a small bit like this, I'd want to sort the problem myself, and quietly, assuming you ever want to actually sell the place in the future...

So yes a bit of ball ache, a few quid and some perseverance, but the best option imho.

Unless you know where the seller lives - that way you know where to take the clippings! rofl
That is probably exactly what the last owner did smile

stanwan

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1,895 posts

226 months

Thursday 3rd May 2012
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Canes cleared and stored and injected with glyphosate. A few new slow growing shoots.

Tactic is going to be multi pronged - kill back with herbicide and a dig out when the canes die back in autumn. THe marker fluorescent die will help to identify rhizome as it will glow under UV light.....

Compost accelereant at the ready as further backup too!!!!

furtive

4,498 posts

279 months

Thursday 3rd May 2012
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How will you get to the rhizome if it's under your house?

Caractacus

2,604 posts

225 months

Thursday 3rd May 2012
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furtive said:
How will you get to the rhizome if it's under your house?
Move the house?

But in all reality, seeing as it's such a small plant, it will be dead after the chemical attack, especially if the OP goes in for a serious dosage at weekly intervals.

Craphouserat

1,496 posts

201 months

Thursday 3rd May 2012
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Have a watch of this from 8:25 onwards.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01gxvgw/Beec...

stanwan

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1,895 posts

226 months

Thursday 3rd May 2012
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furtive said:
How will you get to the rhizome if it's under your house?
dig under if I have to and possibly need to prop. We need to dig down when we extend and will still need a root barrier membrane as we have lots of trees.

Given the proximity of the eucalyptus, We will probably need 2-3m foundations or piles anyway.

furtive

4,498 posts

279 months

Thursday 3rd May 2012
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How about covering it up and moving?

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

wink

stanwan

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1,895 posts

226 months

Sunday 6th May 2012
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eltawater said:
To be honest, that patch is tiny compared to the forest which grew alongside the red cow pub on dunmow road. We had to get the professionals in for that one!
Maybe this evil stuff has tunnelled 3/4 of a mile to surface by my hose? I swear I can hear it laughing at me......

stanwan

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1,895 posts

226 months

Thursday 10th May 2012
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Update week 1

Poisonedd the thick stems and sprayed the its evil little children


dickymint

24,331 posts

258 months

Thursday 10th May 2012
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4 -2 to knotweed I'd say. hehe

BigTom85

1,927 posts

171 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2012
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Any updates on this?

dickymint

24,331 posts

258 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2012
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He's eating his way through it......................

http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/sussex/hi/people_and_p...





Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

170 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2012
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dickymint said:
He's eating his way through it......................

http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/sussex/hi/people_and_p...


Does this mean your human waste becomes controlled waste? I suppose you'd have to make an appointment at a licensed tip to take a dump.

richyb

4,615 posts

210 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2012
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I had heard of people eating it before so gave it a try myself. Wasn't sure the best way to do it so I just imagine it was a bit of asparagus. I boiled some young stems for about 8 minutes and then grilled some for about the same time and served with butter. Horrible! I'll stick to herbicide for getting rid of the stuff.

stanwan

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1,895 posts

226 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2012
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BigTom85 said:
Any updates on this?

Froggy porker

4,765 posts

241 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2012
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Looking good! I'm also fighting with it heading from common land into my garden and towards my house - it becomes an obsession! Now that I'm tuned into spotting it I can see that there's lots of knotweed in the wild over here in France and they don't seem to make such a big deal about its effects on housing.

I'm taking no chances - eradication is the answer. tank

Am using the "cut off near ground level and liberally paint with strong Roundup" approach. Hopefully this will do the trick - some websites talk about the rhizome going into long term, herbicide-induced dormancy so it then comes back once you've turned your back on the situation.

stanwan

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226 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2012
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Froggy porker said:
Looking good! I'm also fighting with it heading from common land into my garden and towards my house - it becomes an obsession! Now that I'm tuned into spotting it I can see that there's lots of knotweed in the wild over here in France and they don't seem to make such a big deal about its effects on housing.

I'm taking no chances - eradication is the answer. tank

Am using the "cut off near ground level and liberally paint with strong Roundup" approach. Hopefully this will do the trick - some websites talk about the rhizome going into long term, herbicide-induced dormancy so it then comes back once you've turned your back on the situation.
Well froggy I share your enthusiasm!! I've been reading lots of research journals on knotweed and its management. To cut a long story short, there's a whole bunch of techniques that will work, and it it is best to combine herbicide and mechanical methods.

Carbohydrate translocation maximises after the leaves mature. prior to that point the main energy sinks are above ground i.e. stems, leaves and eventually flowers. Hence, the advice that the best time to apply a foliar spray of glyphosate is after the flowering period.

Earlier spraying will still work, but is less effective.

Once the stand stops producing new shoots, I'm going to carefully remove all the crowns by hand and chase out rhizomes away from the structure. Any new growth will be allowed attacked with glyphosate.

Hopefully the clay soils here will be my blessing and I won't have to dig down too far....



Froggy porker

4,765 posts

241 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2012
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Your approach sounds like a good one, though I'm wary of digging as a break in a rhizome seems to be a local growth initiator.

One suggested eradication method that struck a chord with me when I read about it on the net was based on the observation that mowing a patch of knotweed regularly would eventually kill it off through exhaustion. What we are both doing is similar in that zapping new growth early (and of course poisoning the fk out of it biggrin) prevents the rhizome from having any quality photosynthesis time to build up its energy levels.

Good luck, and die bd satan weed, die......

blueg33

35,860 posts

224 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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Froggy porker said:
Looking good! I'm also fighting with it heading from common land into my garden and towards my house - it becomes an obsession! Now that I'm tuned into spotting it I can see that there's lots of knotweed in the wild over here in France and they don't seem to make such a big deal about its effects on housing.

I'm taking no chances - eradication is the answer. tank

Am using the "cut off near ground level and liberally paint with strong Roundup" approach. Hopefully this will do the trick - some websites talk about the rhizome going into long term, herbicide-induced dormancy so it then comes back once you've turned your back on the situation.
If knotweed is entering your land from adjoining land, you may be able to take action against the landowner. Even common land will probably have one. I would start with the Council.

I had a similar issue on a site and the adjoining land owner coughed up for knotweed removal, after a little pressure smile

jdw1234

6,021 posts

215 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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stanwan said:
Froggy porker said:
Looking good! I'm also fighting with it heading from common land into my garden and towards my house - it becomes an obsession! Now that I'm tuned into spotting it I can see that there's lots of knotweed in the wild over here in France and they don't seem to make such a big deal about its effects on housing.

I'm taking no chances - eradication is the answer. tank

Am using the "cut off near ground level and liberally paint with strong Roundup" approach. Hopefully this will do the trick - some websites talk about the rhizome going into long term, herbicide-induced dormancy so it then comes back once you've turned your back on the situation.
Well froggy I share your enthusiasm!! I've been reading lots of research journals on knotweed and its management. To cut a long story short, there's a whole bunch of techniques that will work, and it it is best to combine herbicide and mechanical methods.

Carbohydrate translocation maximises after the leaves mature. prior to that point the main energy sinks are above ground i.e. stems, leaves and eventually flowers. Hence, the advice that the best time to apply a foliar spray of glyphosate is after the flowering period.

Earlier spraying will still work, but is less effective.

Once the stand stops producing new shoots, I'm going to carefully remove all the crowns by hand and chase out rhizomes away from the structure. Any new growth will be allowed attacked with glyphosate.

Hopefully the clay soils here will be my blessing and I won't have to dig down too far....
Can you now use your new skills to charge loads of money to fix other people's problems?