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briSk
Original Poster
14,157 posts
95 months
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Which is the greater evil (edited because i couldn;t spel evil!) - people like me who are very busy and don't feel they should have to tell insurers in triplicate that they don't want to renew their effing policy getting money taken off them that they then have to get back from the damned insurer. i should have to tell them i want it. if i don;t i shouldn't be obliged to super-double check that it is definitely cancelled and that the person i spoke with isn't a male chicken.
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- dozy people becoming uninsured because they're too thick to remember when the policy is ending?
personally because it isn;t a legal requirement - unlike car insurance - i think it's a p1sstake the way they try and do this. and for that matter i think it's odd that they don't do it for car insurance where there's a very real need to be insured.
the olden days were so much better!
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cjs
4,311 posts
120 months
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B4rker
198 posts
20 months
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briSk said: Which is the greater evel - people like me who are very busy and don't feel they should have to tell insurers in triplicate that they don't want to renew their effing policy getting money taken off them that they then have to get back from the damned insurer. i should have to tell them i want it. if i don;t i shouldn't be obliged to super-double check that it is definitely cancelled and that the person i spoke with isn't a male chicken.
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- dozy people becoming uninsured because they're too thick to remember when the policy is ending?
personally because it isn;t a legal requirement - unlike car insurance - i think it's a p1sstake the way they try and do this. and for that matter i think it's odd that they don't do it for car insurance where there's a very real need to be insured.
the olden days were so much better! Simple just pay the policy in full and not by direct debit and it will auto-lapse instead of auto-renew.
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Simpo Two
54,274 posts
134 months
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briSk said: i think it's odd that they don't do it for car insurance where there's a very real need to be insured. Elephant do - but they write and tell you that you 'don't need to do anything'. If the premium is the same I don't have a problem with autorenew, assuming you're notified in advance. It's easier to cancel than remember to renew.
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hedgefinder
1,430 posts
39 months
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B4rker said: Simple just pay the policy in full and not by direct debit and it will auto-lapse instead of auto-renew. not true! if you pay on any form of card they will debit that card 12 months later - I know as its happened to my mother,my father , my wife and myself and usually thats AFTER they have been told that we would not be renewing with them - AA, most insurance companies,dating websites they all use it as an excuse to keep you with them..
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briSk
Original Poster
14,157 posts
95 months
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hedgefinder said: B4rker said: Simple just pay the policy in full and not by direct debit and it will auto-lapse instead of auto-renew. not true! if you pay on any form of card they will debit that card 12 months later - I know as its happened to my mother,my father , my wife and myself and usually thats AFTER they have been told that we would not be renewing with them - AA, most insurance companies,dating websites they all use it as an excuse to keep you with them.. indeed they do! and i am glad it's not just me it's happened to. no i don;t want it. busy with work for a week. on you hols. note the charge on the creidt card. look at your emails and there is is: " thank you for renewing" but i fvcking didn't you robbing french-yet-newcastle-based-call-centre-b  ds. ______simpo - that's the problem though isn;t it - it never is the same. in this instance it is/was 10% more than last year but a high street pant retailer can do it for less. and it's actually more cover.
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Simpo Two
54,274 posts
134 months
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I'd certainly agree that if they do it without warning then it's not really on, even if they covered themselves in small print the time before. You should always get a letter first giving you time to cancel if you want (but then they know they will lose business). Easier to grab the loot first and brace for a Mr Angry letter.
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Buzz84
99 posts
18 months
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I think its all about making money, like with my car insurance the auto-renew price is always higher than other companies (and in fact more often the company you are auto-renewing with too) So i recon that a large amount of people wont bother to check or shop around so they get more money for the policy. I've always got it for less by either changing companies or getting the current company to price match it.
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Paul Drawmer
2,635 posts
136 months
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I work in insurance. If you pay us by card it does NOT auto renew. It will only do so if the company sets up a 'continuous authority' which they should tell you about at the time. If your premiums are paid by DD then we will auto renew, and we do say so in the renewal paperwork.
Because of this, I encourage people to use the DD system. In this way they will be covered after renewal, even if they don't get round to it, or can't be bothered to read the paperwork.
Not all companies charge a lot for DD; and not all companies charge cancellation or admin fees.
If you decide that you do want to insure your house - then why would you want to not be covered if you forget to do something about it?
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spikeyhead
7,514 posts
66 months
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I've just got new house insurance. Expected a renewal notice and it didn't arrive. Finally got round to phoning up to renew it only to discover it ran out three months ago
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hedgefinder
1,430 posts
39 months
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Paul Drawmer said: I work in insurance. If you pay us by card it does NOT auto renew. It will only do so if the company sets up a 'continuous authority' which they should tell you about at the time. If your premiums are paid by DD then we will auto renew, and we do say so in the renewal paperwork.
Because of this, I encourage people to use the DD system. In this way they will be covered after renewal, even if they don't get round to it, or can't be bothered to read the paperwork.
Not all companies charge a lot for DD; and not all companies charge cancellation or admin fees.
If you decide that you do want to insure your house - then why would you want to not be covered if you forget to do something about it? can you please edit your post and change it to "continuous authority will be included in the microscopic small print, which we wont mention to you" The AA "auto renewed" even when they were told to destroy all records of the card details after they had received payment and no way did I wish for it to be automatically charged next year - gues what though... thats exactly what they bloodywell did!
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Paul Drawmer
2,635 posts
136 months
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hedgefinder said: can you please edit your post and change it to "continuous authority will be included in the microscopic small print, which we wont mention to you" The AA "auto renewed" even when they were told to destroy all records of the card details after they had received payment and no way did I wish for it to be automatically charged next year - gues what though... thats exactly what they bloodywell did! No I won't because that's not what we do. Other companies may differ.
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Number 7
2,883 posts
131 months
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Paul Drawmer said: I work in insurance. If you pay us by card it does NOT auto renew. It will only do so if the company sets up a 'continuous authority' which they should tell you about at the time. If your premiums are paid by DD then we will auto renew, and we do say so in the renewal paperwork.
Because of this, I encourage people to use the DD system. In this way they will be covered after renewal, even if they don't get round to it, or can't be bothered to read the paperwork.
Not all companies charge a lot for DD; and not all companies charge cancellation or admin fees.
If you decide that you do want to insure your house - then why would you want to not be covered if you forget to do something about it? Not in my very recent experience taking a contents policy out online with Hiscox. You have no choice but to tick the auto-renew box (and no continuous authority) if you wish to buy the policy - a point I double checked on the phone with them. So if you forget to tell them you don't want to renew, or don't get the renewal letter, you get charged. Sharp practice in my book.
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Paul Drawmer
2,635 posts
136 months
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Number 7 said: Not in my very recent experience taking a contents policy out online with Hiscox. You have no choice but to tick the auto-renew box (and no continuous authority) if you wish to buy the policy - a point I double checked on the phone with them. So if you forget to tell them you don't want to renew, or don't get the renewal letter, you get charged. Sharp practice in my book. The point is NOT ALL companies do this. In the above scenario; you know it's going to happen, you've discussed it with them over the phone, and you have the choice whether to proceed or not. How can that be sharp practice? The point about auto renewal is that you will be insured if you forget to do something. For some people that would be better than finding out it had run out and not renewed, just at the time when the fire brigade are winding up their hoses.
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Chrisgr31
7,426 posts
124 months
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Auto-renew is definitely the best option as at least you are covered. If you dont want to auto-renew then dont sign up with a company that does it, or may a diary note to shop around for quotes in 11 months time.
I'd much prefer to have a high premium under Auto-renew than have a calim and find I had forgotten to renew!
However as mentioned by another poster why is your renewal premium always higher than the same company will offer you when you phone to cancel having got comparable quotes?
Haven't insurance companies heard that its a lot cheaper to keep your existing customers than attract new ones?
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Paul Drawmer
2,635 posts
136 months
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Chrisgr31 said: ... Haven't insurance companies heard that its a lot cheaper to keep your existing customers than attract new ones? You are so right! 
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dh2009
16 posts
51 months
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Hello hedgefinder, we’d like to address this with you, if you have any outstanding queries, please email chat@theaa.com with Reference FOR17508. Regards, the Official Representative of The AA
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hedgefinder
1,430 posts
39 months
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dh2009 said: Hello hedgefinder, we’d like to address this with you, if you have any outstanding queries, please email chat@theaa.com with Reference FOR17508. Regards, the Official Representative of The AA its already been addressed, I cancelled my membership (previously a member for the last 10 years probably more).
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New POD
2,007 posts
19 months
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I could never be arsed to change from my original supplier, but Britania have been take over by the co-op and have decided they no longer do house insurance, so I should phone the co-op for a quote.
Bugger that. Over to quidco, get a multiple of quotes, check them against direct line, go to aviva, and take out a policy which is £400 a year cheaper than I was paying. Which means I thrown away £8000 quid over the last 20 years ? Bugger.
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Deva Link
26,934 posts
114 months
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New POD said: ... £400 a year cheaper than I was paying. Blimey, how much are you paying? Mine is £200 combined buildings and contents, both with accidental damage, with LV=. My next door neighbour was paying £800 with SAGA.
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