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megaphone
Original Poster
4,303 posts
120 months
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I'm thinking of getting a new water main into my house, replacing the old lead with a new 25mm (?) pipe. Distance from the water meter in the pavement is about 15m, then under the floor to connect to the existing system.
Anyone got any ideas of cost?
It's not a difficult job, they could use one of those mole things or even dig a trench across the garden.
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ss64ii
304 posts
87 months
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Hi
The guys I use at work normally charge about £1500, moled and connected to the property.You wouldn't even know they had been there
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Ganglandboss
6,663 posts
72 months
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Where are you? Many water authorities have self-lay schemes. You lay the pipe to the boundary and they come and connect up. They may do this bit for free if it is a lead pipe.
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eliot
5,320 posts
123 months
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Just did 15meters this weekend. Bit of a nightmare TBH. Started yesterday with a mates mini digger, went through a land drain, then the existing 15mm line, then dropped my phone in the puddle and finally ended up going through the gas main!!
Got a an experienced ground worker in today who dug the remaining few meters by hand - and good job too, came accros the gas main again and also the main sewer pipe, which no doubt we would of gone through as well.
Not sure about the wizdom of using a mole, judging by the gas pipe which was clearly done by mole - it ends up going all over the place, and worse still you have no idea how deep your pipe is (gas was only 300mm down)
Will post some pictures of the carnage tommorow.
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megaphone
Original Poster
4,303 posts
120 months
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Ganglandboss said: Where are you? Many water authorities have self-lay schemes. You lay the pipe to the boundary and they come and connect up. They may do this bit for free if it is a lead pipe. I'll check with the local water people.
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RC1
2,042 posts
88 months
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eliot said: Just did 15meters this weekend. Bit of a nightmare TBH. Started yesterday with a mates mini digger, went through a land drain, then the existing 15mm line, then dropped my phone in the puddle and finally ended up going through the gas main!!
Got a an experienced ground worker in today who dug the remaining few meters by hand - and good job too, came accros the gas main again and also the main sewer pipe, which no doubt we would of gone through as well.
Not sure about the wizdom of using a mole, judging by the gas pipe which was clearly done by mole - it ends up going all over the place, and worse still you have no idea how deep your pipe is (gas was only 300mm down)
Will post some pictures of the carnage tommorow. you couldnt have made that up.
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kinabalu
75 posts
68 months
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As per ganglandboss above.
Had exactly same scenario here to replace lead main supply, all I had to do was dig trench across front garden to the boundary, I think a specified 24/30 inch depth, Yorkshire Water came along & connected 25mm plastic blue pipe FOC.
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Rosscow
924 posts
32 months
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eliot said: Just did 15meters this weekend. Bit of a nightmare TBH. Started yesterday with a mates mini digger, went through a land drain, then the existing 15mm line, then dropped my phone in the puddle and finally ended up going through the gas main!!
Got a an experienced ground worker in today who dug the remaining few meters by hand - and good job too, came accros the gas main again and also the main sewer pipe, which no doubt we would of gone through as well.
Not sure about the wizdom of using a mole, judging by the gas pipe which was clearly done by mole - it ends up going all over the place, and worse still you have no idea how deep your pipe is (gas was only 300mm down)
Will post some pictures of the carnage tommorow.  That is what you call bad luck!
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megaphone
Original Poster
4,303 posts
120 months
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kinabalu said: As per ganglandboss above.
Had exactly same scenario here to replace lead main supply, all I had to do was dig trench across front garden to the boundary, I think a specified 24/30 inch depth, Yorkshire Water came along & connected 25mm plastic blue pipe FOC. I'm not getting much luck with Veolia water, keep getting referred to different departments, I'm sure I could dig the trench , its about 10m from the boundary and all garden except for a small section of crazy paving. In your case did the water people have to do any digging on the pavement? I have a meter fitted and it looks tight for space to get the new pipe connected.
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kinabalu
75 posts
68 months
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They had to do a tiny bit of pavement excavation but this is the deal, you do your bit, they do what they are responsible for FOC, like for like, mainly as they are keen on removing any lead elements. I Guess it's up to them to figure logistics of connection outside your boundary.
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Marty63
1,543 posts
43 months
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we got ours done by a contractor with a polish guy as labourer
he used a mole with pin point accuracy
although it was 2 years ago it was only £600 if i remember crectly....
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virgil
1,521 posts
93 months
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Just got my quote in to do the same.
Replace mains pipe with 32mm MDPE mains pipe, moled in 15m to the understaris cupboard (I'm replumbing for a mega flow, so all hot/cold feeds will come from there...)
Access pits dug, pipe moled in, temp water connection back to existing plumbing and made good £950 +vay for a days work. Will see whatthe second quote comes in at and see if I can haggle down as it seems a lot for a days work (even including kit etc). But it's still better than me trying it by myself!!
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spikeyhead
7,497 posts
66 months
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Buy spade, dig trench, further developing your powerfully built trim.
Buy digger from ebay, dig trench, sell on ebay, further developing you PHness
Make some explosives, blast a trench, video it for youtube. ...
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hairyben
2,424 posts
52 months
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The moles are good, although not foolproof (they can be deflected and go off course no matter how accurately you set them off, get stuck and need digging out etc all in course and that has to be accounted for in pricing)
If you're not worried about surface disruption open trenching by a labrador or two is always worth considering
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virgil
1,521 posts
93 months
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hairyben said: The moles are good, although not foolproof (they can be deflected and go off course no matter how accurately you set them off, get stuck and need digging out etc all in course and that has to be accounted for in pricing)
If you're not worried about surface disruption open trenching by a labrador or two is always worth considering Not being facicious, but how do you 'open trench' when you need to get under the house...my parque flooring is not going to like that....
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eliot
5,320 posts
123 months
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Marty63
1,543 posts
43 months
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eliot said: And he only meant to change the fuse in the plug...........................
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megaphone
Original Poster
4,303 posts
120 months
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Just a quick update. Managed to get a new main installed for £400 all in. New 25mm polypipe from the pavement meter to the house, they used a 'mole' to bore a hole, then up into the house and through under the floorboards to my stopcock position. Took them around 3 hours start to finish. Water pressure is now so good I have had to reduce the flow at the stopcock. I have a combi boiler and used to get problems if someone opened a tap whilst I was in the shower, now this has been fixed. Oh and my water tastes better! 
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Simpo Two
54,202 posts
134 months
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eliot said: Sewer pipe we would of no doubt gone through How did you figure out that a yellow plastic pipe 30mm in diameter was sewage?
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Muncher
8,248 posts
118 months
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Simpo Two said: How did you figure out that a yellow plastic pipe 30mm in diameter was sewage? It'll certainly smell if you go through it...
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