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megaphone

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5,372 posts

137 months

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I'm thinking of getting a new water main into my house, replacing the old lead with a new 25mm (?) pipe. Distance from the water meter in the pavement is about 15m, then under the floor to connect to the existing system.

Anyone got any ideas of cost?

It's not a difficult job, they could use one of those mole things or even dig a trench across the garden.


ss64ii

304 posts

104 months

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Hi

The guys I use at work normally charge about £1500, moled and connected to the property.You wouldn't even know they had been there

Ganglandboss

7,123 posts

89 months

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Where are you? Many water authorities have self-lay schemes. You lay the pipe to the boundary and they come and connect up. They may do this bit for free if it is a lead pipe.

eliot

6,003 posts

140 months

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Just did 15meters this weekend. Bit of a nightmare TBH. Started yesterday with a mates mini digger, went through a land drain, then the existing 15mm line, then dropped my phone in the puddle and finally ended up going through the gas main!!

Got a an experienced ground worker in today who dug the remaining few meters by hand - and good job too, came accros the gas main again and also the main sewer pipe, which no doubt we would of gone through as well.
Not sure about the wizdom of using a mole, judging by the gas pipe which was clearly done by mole - it ends up going all over the place, and worse still you have no idea how deep your pipe is (gas was only 300mm down)

Will post some pictures of the carnage tommorow.

megaphone

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5,372 posts

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Monday 8th October 2012 quote quote all
Ganglandboss said:
Where are you? Many water authorities have self-lay schemes. You lay the pipe to the boundary and they come and connect up. They may do this bit for free if it is a lead pipe.
I'll check with the local water people.

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RC1

2,867 posts

105 months

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Monday 8th October 2012 quote quote all
eliot said:
Just did 15meters this weekend. Bit of a nightmare TBH. Started yesterday with a mates mini digger, went through a land drain, then the existing 15mm line, then dropped my phone in the puddle and finally ended up going through the gas main!!

Got a an experienced ground worker in today who dug the remaining few meters by hand - and good job too, came accros the gas main again and also the main sewer pipe, which no doubt we would of gone through as well.
Not sure about the wizdom of using a mole, judging by the gas pipe which was clearly done by mole - it ends up going all over the place, and worse still you have no idea how deep your pipe is (gas was only 300mm down)

Will post some pictures of the carnage tommorow.
you couldnt have made that up.

kinabalu

153 posts

85 months

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Monday 8th October 2012 quote quote all
As per ganglandboss above.

Had exactly same scenario here to replace lead main supply, all I had to do was dig trench across front garden to the boundary, I think a specified 24/30 inch depth, Yorkshire Water came along & connected 25mm plastic blue pipe FOC.

Rosscow

2,272 posts

49 months

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Monday 8th October 2012 quote quote all
eliot said:
Just did 15meters this weekend. Bit of a nightmare TBH. Started yesterday with a mates mini digger, went through a land drain, then the existing 15mm line, then dropped my phone in the puddle and finally ended up going through the gas main!!

Got a an experienced ground worker in today who dug the remaining few meters by hand - and good job too, came accros the gas main again and also the main sewer pipe, which no doubt we would of gone through as well.
Not sure about the wizdom of using a mole, judging by the gas pipe which was clearly done by mole - it ends up going all over the place, and worse still you have no idea how deep your pipe is (gas was only 300mm down)

Will post some pictures of the carnage tommorow.
laughlaugh

That is what you call bad luck!

megaphone

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5,372 posts

137 months

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kinabalu said:
As per ganglandboss above.

Had exactly same scenario here to replace lead main supply, all I had to do was dig trench across front garden to the boundary, I think a specified 24/30 inch depth, Yorkshire Water came along & connected 25mm plastic blue pipe FOC.
I'm not getting much luck with Veolia water, keep getting referred to different departments, I'm sure I could dig the trench , its about 10m from the boundary and all garden except for a small section of crazy paving.

In your case did the water people have to do any digging on the pavement? I have a meter fitted and it looks tight for space to get the new pipe connected.

kinabalu

153 posts

85 months

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They had to do a tiny bit of pavement excavation but this is the deal, you do your bit, they do what they are responsible for FOC, like for like, mainly as they are keen on removing any lead elements. I Guess it's up to them to figure logistics of connection outside your boundary.

Marty63

2,344 posts

60 months

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Monday 8th October 2012 quote quote all
we got ours done by a contractor with a polish guy as labourer

he used a mole with pin point accuracy

although it was 2 years ago it was only £600 if i remember crectly....

virgil

1,552 posts

110 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
Just got my quote in to do the same.

Replace mains pipe with 32mm MDPE mains pipe, moled in 15m to the understaris cupboard (I'm replumbing for a mega flow, so all hot/cold feeds will come from there...)

Access pits dug, pipe moled in, temp water connection back to existing plumbing and made good £950 +vay for a days work. Will see whatthe second quote comes in at and see if I can haggle down as it seems a lot for a days work (even including kit etc). But it's still better than me trying it by myself!!

spikeyhead

8,766 posts

83 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
Buy spade, dig trench, further developing your powerfully built trim.

Buy digger from ebay, dig trench, sell on ebay, further developing you PHness

Make some explosives, blast a trench, video it for youtube. ...

hairyben

3,500 posts

69 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
The moles are good, although not foolproof (they can be deflected and go off course no matter how accurately you set them off, get stuck and need digging out etc all in course and that has to be accounted for in pricing)

If you're not worried about surface disruption open trenching by a labrador or two is always worth considering

virgil

1,552 posts

110 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
hairyben said:
The moles are good, although not foolproof (they can be deflected and go off course no matter how accurately you set them off, get stuck and need digging out etc all in course and that has to be accounted for in pricing)

If you're not worried about surface disruption open trenching by a labrador or two is always worth considering
Not being facicious, but how do you 'open trench' when you need to get under the house...my parque flooring is not going to like that....

eliot

6,003 posts

140 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
Pair of Keyboard monkeys armed with a 3 ton mini digger:


Tom armed with a spade, fags, tea and biccies:


Sewer pipe we would of no doubt gone through

Marty63

2,344 posts

60 months

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Wednesday 10th October 2012 quote quote all
eliot said:
Pair of Keyboard monkeys armed with a 3 ton mini digger:


Tom armed with a spade, fags, tea and biccies:


Sewer pipe we would of no doubt gone through
And he only meant to change the fuse in the plug...........................

megaphone

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5,372 posts

137 months

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Monday 5th November 2012 quote quote all
Just a quick update. Managed to get a new main installed for £400 all in. New 25mm polypipe from the pavement meter to the house, they used a 'mole' to bore a hole, then up into the house and through under the floorboards to my stopcock position. Took them around 3 hours start to finish.

Water pressure is now so good I have had to reduce the flow at the stopcock. I have a combi boiler and used to get problems if someone opened a tap whilst I was in the shower, now this has been fixed.

Oh and my water tastes better! wink

Edited by megaphone on Monday 5th November 10:01

Simpo Two

60,084 posts

151 months

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eliot said:
Sewer pipe we would of no doubt gone through
How did you figure out that a yellow plastic pipe 30mm in diameter was sewage?

Muncher

9,579 posts

135 months

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Simpo Two said:
How did you figure out that a yellow plastic pipe 30mm in diameter was sewage?
It'll certainly smell if you go through it...
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