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Door hinging issue

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Simpo Two

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65,318 posts

171 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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Can't get my head round this...

I have a pair of doors that currently open outwards - view from outside and above:



View from inside:



The fact that both doors open outwards is very irksome as they get in the way, so I was pondering a way to make them open inwards:



Obviously if I'm not to sacrifice the doorframe, some kind of clever hinge would be needed (I'm aware the door would have to be lowered as well.

I found this kind of hinge:


http://www.screwfix.com/p/eclipse-spring-hinges-sa...

But would it work, is it suitable and if not can anyone suggest another way?

Edited by Simpo Two on Saturday 13th October 15:43

MrV

2,746 posts

134 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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Any reason why you cant just use the existing hinges on the inside but folded to an L shape ?

If you want them to open completely flush just rebate them into the wood.

Simpo Two

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65,318 posts

171 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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MrV said:
Any reason why you cant just use the existing hinges on the inside but folded to an L shape ?
It would look bad on the outside as it would set the doors in about 2". There's also a hatch on top which currently ends flush with the doors and I'd like that to continue.

Engineer1

10,485 posts

115 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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Is that on a boat? I suspect the door opens that way to prevent you falling through it in rough weather.

Simpo Two

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65,318 posts

171 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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It is on a boat, but on a very flat river, and I think it's built like that simply because it's the easiest way to do it. In fact I asked during construction whether it could be changed, and they said not.

Plan B is to make it bifold (folding outside to the right), so at least only the navigator is trapped in his seat by the open door and not me as well! They look lovely but are a thundering nuisance.
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MrV

2,746 posts

134 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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Simpo Two said:
It would look bad on the outside as it would set the doors in about 2". There's also a hatch on top which currently ends flush with the doors and I'd like that to continue.
The door would be in the same position it is in now ,as a picture paints a thousand words.new position of hinges I've marked in blue



Down side to this is you lose a little access

Simpo Two

Original Poster:

65,318 posts

171 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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MrV said:
The door would be in the same position it is in now ,as a picture paints a thousand words.new position of hinges I've marked in blue



Down side to this is you lose a little access
Thak MrV, I see what you mean. Yes, that was an early and easy idea but as you say it would lose over 2" of doorway width, which is already not overly wide. The doors need to fold back inside or not at all.

I was trying to juggle the 3-fold hinge with the profile in my head, trying to figure out how it would need to be attached to work, if it would work at all, but ran out of mental RAM!

Pooky67

577 posts

65 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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Is it possible for the doors to be fitted inside the door shut?

astroarcadia

1,329 posts

106 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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AstonZagato

5,927 posts

116 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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What about pivot door slides? The doors initially open out but then can be slid on runners back into the opening.

Or ask this company?

http://dornob.com/crafty-concealed-cabinet-door-hi...

Paul Drawmer

3,300 posts

173 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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Presumably the hatch slides over the top of the door to secure it?
So the fixing on the hatch will have to match up with something.

What happens at the bottom of the door, is there a threshold that the door is shutting against at the top of the companionway? This would be normal for a sea-going craft so that the doors don't get smashed in by an over the stern wave. I know you are only on a flat river, but those substantial rebates that the door closes onto do make it much harder to just push the doors in.