How can I stop a neighbour parking on my property?
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ColinM50 said:
If you're planning to sell in the near future, be very careful of getting into a dispute with her. As part of the legal paperwork you have to fill in, you'll be asked if there are any disputes or arguments with neighbours and you don't want to have to answer yes to that. it starts all sorts of issues with buyers.
My advice would be to ignore it and let her park where she wants and let the new owners sort it.
Thats my advice as well. My advice would be to ignore it and let her park where she wants and let the new owners sort it.
probably am being a little soft to be fair. With neighbours my view is I'd rather get along and be "neighbourly". This situ doesn't compute well with that approach. i.e. I replaced the fences in the garden when they blew (we went halves on cost), but i could have insisted we get someone into do it rather than giving my time etc.
I'm going to fence it. Both use our cars, seems to be whoever gets there first parks there, i don't want that hassle.
I'm going to fence it. Both use our cars, seems to be whoever gets there first parks there, i don't want that hassle.
1Matt1 said:
probably am being a little soft to be fair. With neighbours my view is I'd rather get along and be "neighbourly".
We had similar issue with a neighbour a few years ago, but I didn't want to cause any friction as the guy was friendly enough. He used to park on the road outside his house, perfectly legitimately, aligned with his property, but the shared drop kerb was 75% on his side, which made it really awkward to get up ours sometimes.
I looked into extending the dropped kerb but it was going to cost about £800 or more. You have to get PP for a dropped kerb.
just to update this (changed my username since too!), I went for the fence option, looks nice i think (yes I know the outside of house is a state!) and I can get a couple of cars on now - result.
Unfortunately she's (next door) is still a prized A tt even though I discussed my plans - i.e. want to park two cars on my drive. She now parks half in the parking bay and half out on the road across the drop kerb making access difficult for me. Parking restrictions are only between 2-3PM so she won't get a ticket for it.
I'd love rip her head of a st down the hole, but that's not very neighbourly is it. She's a 50 year old single (not by choice) battle axe.
Rant over.
Unfortunately she's (next door) is still a prized A tt even though I discussed my plans - i.e. want to park two cars on my drive. She now parks half in the parking bay and half out on the road across the drop kerb making access difficult for me. Parking restrictions are only between 2-3PM so she won't get a ticket for it.
I'd love rip her head of a st down the hole, but that's not very neighbourly is it. She's a 50 year old single (not by choice) battle axe.
Rant over.
I have to drive half over the grass to get out, i've requested the council extend my drop ( i was planning on doing this anyway).
there's basically 2 resident bays in front of her house, her neighbour parks in one, she parks half in half out - you could park another small car in the middle if you wanted to.
there's basically 2 resident bays in front of her house, her neighbour parks in one, she parks half in half out - you could park another small car in the middle if you wanted to.
Really, I didn't realise I had right of access over the drop kerb. Hmm one for the armoury when I next speak to the twit.
I didn't mention this earlier, but she knocked on my door a month after the job was done stating that her Dad (she's 50 remember) said that that fence blocks her right of access. Even though she had been blocking it with her car for years - when the boot is on the other foot and all that ... !
Anyway, I did enjoy telling her I checked that point and there is no right of access written in the deeds, just a marking on the deeds stating boundary with no physical substance. Incidentally I also said, that was something our solicitor pointed out when we bought the place - that neither party had right of access and was it something my Wife and I would like to instate (we didn't as we didn't want to share all along).
I do fancy buying a LR Defender or such like and ramming her poxy micra out of the way though.
These sorts of things really do annoy me, she's having a party in April. Perhaps I should go away for the weekend and pop a note on facebook.
I didn't mention this earlier, but she knocked on my door a month after the job was done stating that her Dad (she's 50 remember) said that that fence blocks her right of access. Even though she had been blocking it with her car for years - when the boot is on the other foot and all that ... !
Anyway, I did enjoy telling her I checked that point and there is no right of access written in the deeds, just a marking on the deeds stating boundary with no physical substance. Incidentally I also said, that was something our solicitor pointed out when we bought the place - that neither party had right of access and was it something my Wife and I would like to instate (we didn't as we didn't want to share all along).
I do fancy buying a LR Defender or such like and ramming her poxy micra out of the way though.
These sorts of things really do annoy me, she's having a party in April. Perhaps I should go away for the weekend and pop a note on facebook.
MrDecadent said:
I didn't mention this earlier, but she knocked on my door a month after the job was done stating that her Dad (she's 50 remember) said that that fence blocks her right of access. Even though she had been blocking it with her car for years - when the boot is on the other foot and all that ... !
Right of access to what ? she still has access to her side, even more so now the daft mooey isn't blocking her own gate with her car !Is she claiming that the side fence shoudln't be there and that you both have half a shared "drive to the back garden" and that unobstructed access should be available ? if so the fence with the gates was there before ? or is she saying the front drive section that you have put that new fence on from the gates to the road is obstructing her access to your side of the drive ?
On a serious note why don't just pay for her to have a parking permit ? I know you shouldn;t have to but would that solve your problems ? she parks a touch further back and doesn't have to worry about a ticket ever and you get access. You could make it out like she is doing you a favour parking bit further back and as a thankyou you would like to pay the permit and heres a bottle of wine and a rubber schlong for you to fudd your crying, lonely, single, bulldog self off to every night ? Don't forget a bit of KJ, bet she is as dry as a cream cracker.
You know, Keep it friendly kind of thing.
Neeeeeighbours....Everybody needs good neeeighbours....With a little understaaaaanding....we can find the perfect blenddddddd
Edited by Tampon on Monday 18th March 20:42
Tampon – made me laugh ha
So – we paid for her new gate in the pictures, the fence is erected solely on my land, I offered to pay for the permit (£15) and I checked she was happy before and after (“yes it looks great” was the answer to my face) and I offered to dig up her line of shrubs and gravel between her path to front door and path to back gate in the pictures so that she could park as she said she couldn’t afford to have hers done (she said no).
Parking restrictions are only for an hour a day while everyone is at work (I live near a mainline station), she parks on yellows across the drop and a bit in the bay anyway.
If she parked within the bay there would be no issues, she chooses to leave it empty and park across most of the dropped kerb, which is single car width and 50% “her side”, 50% “mine” but due to the angle and distance across the pavement means you can drive straight onto my property (or hers if she’d done the job too) from it. She probably thinks the drop kerb is half “hers” even though it’s on council land.
There is no space to park cars in the gardens due to extensions, so using it would mean one car would always be blocking someone’s access. There did used to be garages in the gardens though, built in the 60s if my sources are correct (houses are 30s), but were too small for the modern car. However, no right of access in the deeds and all other houses on the road of the same style bar 1 have done the same as we have done (except they have made a parking area for each neighbour, but she wanted to keep her garden).
She’s just purposely making my life difficult cause she is a miserable, lonely old battle axe that has f all else going on in her life. I realise this probably all sounds a little one sided but I don’t think I could be any more reasonable – the first conversation we had with her 2.5 years ago was about parking, the drive plans (she initially said she would do the drive with us but kept fobbing us off about having no money) and right of access! We never parked like she did because I wasn’t comfortable with taking the piss or causing any inconvenience if I wasn’t around to move my car (as she caused for us on numerous occasions when I needed to get around the back to take stuff to the tip etc).
Could be worse I guess – there’s no aggression, this is just childish behaviour.
Anyway I’ll leave it here.
So – we paid for her new gate in the pictures, the fence is erected solely on my land, I offered to pay for the permit (£15) and I checked she was happy before and after (“yes it looks great” was the answer to my face) and I offered to dig up her line of shrubs and gravel between her path to front door and path to back gate in the pictures so that she could park as she said she couldn’t afford to have hers done (she said no).
Parking restrictions are only for an hour a day while everyone is at work (I live near a mainline station), she parks on yellows across the drop and a bit in the bay anyway.
If she parked within the bay there would be no issues, she chooses to leave it empty and park across most of the dropped kerb, which is single car width and 50% “her side”, 50% “mine” but due to the angle and distance across the pavement means you can drive straight onto my property (or hers if she’d done the job too) from it. She probably thinks the drop kerb is half “hers” even though it’s on council land.
There is no space to park cars in the gardens due to extensions, so using it would mean one car would always be blocking someone’s access. There did used to be garages in the gardens though, built in the 60s if my sources are correct (houses are 30s), but were too small for the modern car. However, no right of access in the deeds and all other houses on the road of the same style bar 1 have done the same as we have done (except they have made a parking area for each neighbour, but she wanted to keep her garden).
She’s just purposely making my life difficult cause she is a miserable, lonely old battle axe that has f all else going on in her life. I realise this probably all sounds a little one sided but I don’t think I could be any more reasonable – the first conversation we had with her 2.5 years ago was about parking, the drive plans (she initially said she would do the drive with us but kept fobbing us off about having no money) and right of access! We never parked like she did because I wasn’t comfortable with taking the piss or causing any inconvenience if I wasn’t around to move my car (as she caused for us on numerous occasions when I needed to get around the back to take stuff to the tip etc).
Could be worse I guess – there’s no aggression, this is just childish behaviour.
Anyway I’ll leave it here.
MrDecadent said:
Tampon – made me laugh ha
So – we paid for her new gate in the pictures, the fence is erected solely on my land, I offered to pay for the permit (£15) and I checked she was happy before and after (“yes it looks great” was the answer to my face) and I offered to dig up her line of shrubs and gravel between her path to front door and path to back gate in the pictures so that she could park as she said she couldn’t afford to have hers done (she said no).
Parking restrictions are only for an hour a day while everyone is at work (I live near a mainline station), she parks on yellows across the drop and a bit in the bay anyway.
If she parked within the bay there would be no issues, she chooses to leave it empty and park across most of the dropped kerb, which is single car width and 50% “her side”, 50% “mine” but due to the angle and distance across the pavement means you can drive straight onto my property (or hers if she’d done the job too) from it. She probably thinks the drop kerb is half “hers” even though it’s on council land.
There is no space to park cars in the gardens due to extensions, so using it would mean one car would always be blocking someone’s access. There did used to be garages in the gardens though, built in the 60s if my sources are correct (houses are 30s), but were too small for the modern car. However, no right of access in the deeds and all other houses on the road of the same style bar 1 have done the same as we have done (except they have made a parking area for each neighbour, but she wanted to keep her garden).
She’s just purposely making my life difficult cause she is a miserable, lonely old battle axe that has f all else going on in her life. I realise this probably all sounds a little one sided but I don’t think I could be any more reasonable – the first conversation we had with her 2.5 years ago was about parking, the drive plans (she initially said she would do the drive with us but kept fobbing us off about having no money) and right of access! We never parked like she did because I wasn’t comfortable with taking the piss or causing any inconvenience if I wasn’t around to move my car (as she caused for us on numerous occasions when I needed to get around the back to take stuff to the tip etc).
Could be worse I guess – there’s no aggression, this is just childish behaviour.
Anyway I’ll leave it here.
Tough situation for you, nice to see people not go bananas over small stuff though.So – we paid for her new gate in the pictures, the fence is erected solely on my land, I offered to pay for the permit (£15) and I checked she was happy before and after (“yes it looks great” was the answer to my face) and I offered to dig up her line of shrubs and gravel between her path to front door and path to back gate in the pictures so that she could park as she said she couldn’t afford to have hers done (she said no).
Parking restrictions are only for an hour a day while everyone is at work (I live near a mainline station), she parks on yellows across the drop and a bit in the bay anyway.
If she parked within the bay there would be no issues, she chooses to leave it empty and park across most of the dropped kerb, which is single car width and 50% “her side”, 50% “mine” but due to the angle and distance across the pavement means you can drive straight onto my property (or hers if she’d done the job too) from it. She probably thinks the drop kerb is half “hers” even though it’s on council land.
There is no space to park cars in the gardens due to extensions, so using it would mean one car would always be blocking someone’s access. There did used to be garages in the gardens though, built in the 60s if my sources are correct (houses are 30s), but were too small for the modern car. However, no right of access in the deeds and all other houses on the road of the same style bar 1 have done the same as we have done (except they have made a parking area for each neighbour, but she wanted to keep her garden).
She’s just purposely making my life difficult cause she is a miserable, lonely old battle axe that has f all else going on in her life. I realise this probably all sounds a little one sided but I don’t think I could be any more reasonable – the first conversation we had with her 2.5 years ago was about parking, the drive plans (she initially said she would do the drive with us but kept fobbing us off about having no money) and right of access! We never parked like she did because I wasn’t comfortable with taking the piss or causing any inconvenience if I wasn’t around to move my car (as she caused for us on numerous occasions when I needed to get around the back to take stuff to the tip etc).
Could be worse I guess – there’s no aggression, this is just childish behaviour.
Anyway I’ll leave it here.
Kill her with kindness, just ask her the nicest way all the bloody time if she can move her car back a touch as your having problem getting out ( sore neck or bad shoulder makes the tight move painful blah blah ), when she does, massive thank you. I would say asking her 4-5 in a week and at the end of the week giving her a bunch of flowers and a note for all the effort she has made and being such a cracking neighbor.
Then if she does it again crank the it up all over again, really snively and slimy " sorry to be a pain again, must be a real annoyance for you, sorry, could you move the car back a touch, I am such a women etc etc" bigger bunch of flowers bottle of wine.
Watch her go mental with the internal dilemma of the dichotomy that is Mr DeCadent, massive pain in the arse but too nice to be angry with.
She will have to make the choice to be a outwardly then.
Worst case, take solace in the fact your aren't a yballchops, and we need more people like that. There is a reason she is alone at that stage in her life, and it isn't "other people".
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