Best Wifi enabled thermostat

[gaz1234]

R26Chris said:

I got the extension box to control the hot water. In hindsight I should have saved the cash. I only use the hot water on a timer through the Tado, which is what I had before with the standard heating programmer anyway.

So I could use the existing timer for water and leave the hw to on setting using the Tado thermometer unit?

[dickymint]

R26Chris said:

I got the extension box to control the hot water. In hindsight I should have saved the cash. I only use the hot water on a timer through the Tado, which is what I had before with the standard heating programmer anyway.

I got the extension box as I didn't have or want a hard wired (therefore fixed position) roomstat. To be honest I didn't want a room stat but regs insist you have one!

[BoostMonkey]

Is there any difference between the Tado and Evohome?
They are both Zonal, compensate for weather, learn how the homes heats up and cools down, underfloor heating, Hot water.

Is there anything else that set's them apart?

I had a good look at Evohome at Ecobuild on Wednesday and for £235 (inc wifi box) it seems spot on.

Edited by BoostMonkey on Friday 6th March 10:09

[papercup]

Anyone tried Wave? Its the Worcester version of Hive I think, and seeing as I have a year-old Worcester Greenstar, maybe I should be looking at it?

I did sign up to get Hive but they sent a girl around who wasn't allowed to open my boiler to tinker with it!

It made me think twice, and maybe I should get the 'right tool for the job'....?

[SMar]

BoostMonkey said:

Is there any difference between the Tado and Evohome?
They are both Zonal, compensate for weather, learn how the homes heats up and cools down, underfloor heating, Hot water.

Is there anything else that set's them apart?

I had a good look at Evohome at Ecobuild on Wednesday and for £235 (inc wifi box) it seems spot on.

Edited by BoostMonkey on Friday 6th March 10:09

From what I understand of the Evosystem, £235 is just the starter pack, you need to have the TRV's for the radiators at £50 a piece for the system to be usuable. So its £235 + Number of Radiators x £50.

[Leithen]

BoostMonkey said:

Is there any difference between the Tado and Evohome?
They are both Zonal, compensate for weather, learn how the homes heats up and cools down, underfloor heating, Hot water.

Is there anything else that set's them apart?

I had a good look at Evohome at Ecobuild on Wednesday and for £235 (inc wifi box) it seems spot on.

Edited by BoostMonkey on Friday 6th March 10:09

As I understand it, Tado doesn't currently offer direct TRV control. Evohome allows up to 12 zones currently (I think that might be increasing soon), that can be either a single TRV or a collection of them, or a room stat.

Evohome is more expensive as it offers much finer control and allows zoning without seperate physical heating circuits. It isn't for everyone however - it all depends on the house/apartment involved and how people use them.

Tado, Nest etc is simpler and probably quite adequate for a large number of modern homes that don't require different heat profiles in different areas at different times.

As I've mentioned before, the thermostat that is getting rave reviews in North America at the moment and apparently supplanting Nest, is the ecobee3. No idea when it might be available here though.

[BoostMonkey]

Leithen said:

BoostMonkey said:

Is there any difference between the Tado and Evohome?
They are both Zonal, compensate for weather, learn how the homes heats up and cools down, underfloor heating, Hot water.

Is there anything else that set's them apart?

I had a good look at Evohome at Ecobuild on Wednesday and for £235 (inc wifi box) it seems spot on.

Edited by BoostMonkey on Friday 6th March 10:09

As I understand it, Tado doesn't currently offer direct TRV control. Evohome allows up to 12 zones currently (I think that might be increasing soon), that can be either a single TRV or a collection of them, or a room stat.

Evohome is more expensive as it offers much finer control and allows zoning without seperate physical heating circuits. It isn't for everyone however - it all depends on the house/apartment involved and how people use them.

Tado, Nest etc is simpler and probably quite adequate for a large number of modern homes that don't require different heat profiles in different areas at different times.

As I've mentioned before, the thermostat that is getting rave reviews in North America at the moment and apparently supplanting Nest, is the ecobee3. No idea when it might be available here though.

Sorry yes, I realise you need to get the TRV's.
Sounds like Evohome if it does allower finer control is ideal for us, but I will look up ecobee.

[gaz1234]

gaz1234 said:

So I could use the existing timer for water and leave the hw to on setting using the Tado thermometer unit?

Anyone?

[Pheo]

gaz1234 said:

Anyone?

Don't really understand your original statement. If you mean, can I leave the timer in place, and replace my thermostat with a TADO smart thermostat, then yes. Provided your thermostat is wired. You'd then control hot water using the timer/programmer and heating would be controlled by Tado - as you would lead the heating turned to on, and allow Tado to switch it on/off according to your settings.

Having a problem with my Smart Thermostat. I have one of the early ones, and the positive connection on the battery compartment has failed. I've taken the back off, and rigged it back together for now. Tado support are saying they cannot replace just the thermostat as they are all coded together? So I'd have to get replaced all three components of the system! The other suggestion is I solder it back together.

Quite surprised by this, I'm not convinced that can be right! Given I've had a gateway separately replaced!

[gaz1234]

Pheo said:

Don't really understand your original statement. If you mean, can I leave the timer in place, and replace my thermostat with a TADO smart thermostat, then yes. Provided your thermostat is wired. You'd then control hot water using the timer/programmer and heating would be controlled by Tado - as you would lead the heating turned to on, and allow Tado to switch it on/off according to your settings.

Having a problem with my Smart Thermostat. I have one of the early ones, and the positive connection on the battery compartment has failed. I've taken the back off, and rigged it back together for now. Tado support are saying they cannot replace just the thermostat as they are all coded together? So I'd have to get replaced all three components of the system! The other suggestion is I solder it back together.

Quite surprised by this, I'm not convinced that can be right! Given I've had a gateway separately replaced!

Ok, got it.
Will take a look at it tomorrow. How will I know if wireless?

[Pheo]

gaz1234 said:

Ok, got it.
Will take a look at it tomorrow. How will I know if wireless?

You can take it off the wall and there are no wires attached You'd probably know if it were wireless (you'd have been putting batteries in it most likely!)

[gaz1234]

Pheo said:

You can take it off the wall and there are no wires attached You'd probably know if it were wireless (you'd have been putting batteries in it most likely!)

Not wired power and wireless?

[bad company]

54 pages on PH about thermostats. Amazing.

[Magic919]

gaz1234 said:

Not wired power and wireless?

That is unlikely. You can have battery powered thermostats with wired or wireless connectivity. Sounds like you need to better understand what you currently have. Look up the make and model of the stat and open it up to check the wiring. Identify what is there. Be aware that some carry mains voltage.

[gaz1234]

Magic919 said:

That is unlikely. You can have battery powered thermostats with wired or wireless connectivity. Sounds like you need to better understand what you currently have. Look up the make and model of the stat and open it up to check the wiring. Identify what is there. Be aware that some carry mains voltage.

It's a potterton, old style dial thermometer in the living room, with controls scheduler next to the boiler.
I've googled but can't find the manual.

[Magic919]

Your 'thermometer' probably has two wires inside and might have labels on the terminals. Either open it up or get someone competent to do it. Most have a wire at mains live voltage and a return. They connect together to demand heat. This is fine for Tado b

[Max M4X WW]

Hi all,

I've recently moved and removed my Nest from my old combi boiler - easy as there were three wires only!

My new house has a Honeywell stat on the wall and an ST9400C programmer - this looks a lot more confusing as the boiler isn't a Combi. Can anyne give me any tips for installation? I believe I need to wire two wires from 'in the wall' to the 12v outputs on the heat link and the nest backing plate and then I assume attach the wires from the programmer to the heat link to control the heating instead of the programmer?

I've not taken anything apart yet as we don't have an internet connection until Friday but I'm keen to get it working ASAP!

Thanks

[Mojooo]

Here is a recent review of various products

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/test-centre/digital-hom...

[Mojooo]

I am going to have a new boielr fitted and the installer recommends the Worcester Bosch Wave which I sell retails for approx 200-230.

I also need new radiator valves which cost something like £20.

A such I wodner if I should just go for the Evohome, as it actually won't cost me that much extra to do it at the same time.

Any thoughts?

[maniac886]

Mojooo said:

I am going to have a new boielr fitted and the installer recommends the Worcester Bosch Wave which I sell retails for approx 200-230.

I also need new radiator valves which cost something like £20.

A such I wodner if I should just go for the Evohome, as it actually won't cost me that much extra to do it at the same time.

Any thoughts?

The HoneyWell Evo connected pack which includes the controller, relay and mobile access kit is around the same price as the Wave but it's the wireless radiator controllers that drive up the cost as these need to be fitted on each of the radiators and retail at around £55 each.

Edited by maniac886 on Sunday 15th March 08:48